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Originally Posted by Job 30 26
@ Desoxyn it could be remeron withdrawal. I've been off it all week, i didn't do the 4 day half dosage, i just went off it completely and I haven't had any side effects--besides sleepless nights. I am on 10mgs of Ambien. Damn man, you know a lot of **** lol I was on remeron for quite some time, maybe that's the reason ambien is being so ineffective. How quick is it suppose to work? I took it at 11pm and was up until 2am--but every pasing hour I took more and more benadyl and an extra benzo just trying to fall asleep.
I was up so late last night that when I hope up this morning I started to slip in and out o cosciousness as I drove to work which is pretty typical.
I see my pdoc again on the 11th of september, so I might be able to get a higher dosage of ambien if that is the case but also talk to her about ketamine options.
The 2 ketamine options that I see ahead, the nasal spray (rip off) and the infusion (even more expensive!) are ****** options. It costs like $2 at the pharmacy, im hoping that she lets me somehow get it through that route but what are the chances honestly? I practically live with a nurse. Maybe that will help my argument. It's just not feasable to do infusions because insoruance, if I had it, doesn't cover it. So that would be $600 a WEEK out of my pocket. That's insane.
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It's not a defeat to take a little Remeron and slowly get off of it - ~30mg is a big dose. Yknow how long I've been tapering phenibut? Over a year! I'm on 175mg a day now instead of 750-1000mg a day... Just take your time, be mindful.. I know you don't want to deal with any of this crap and just want to sleep.. It's quite terrible - Not being able to sleep.. Cuz during the day, you're not rested and you're thinking like "****.. I'm gonna have to lie down in the darkness, alone, scared with schiz etc and try to stop existing for a while just to immediately wake up exhausted as hell one second later - And go to work...".
You could be at the peak of insomniac madness right now - Or have passed it (Seems likely). It only gets better from here - The longer you go through withdrawal. Ambien has a very short half life (Shorter than zopiclone or temazepam) so it's a good med to take long term. Eventually this nightmare will be over and you'll find some peace, free from psychosis too - You can write, drink a few beers every now and then, etc..
I made my own spray but not using it because I'm dealing with mental depersonalization/derealization anxiety (Possibly from alprazolam withdrawal - And the atenolol is masking the physical anxiety). When you get hit with the ketamine, it's like "Oh cool.. the depression is gone". It's like taking a benzo for anxiety (People without anxiety don't really get benzo euphoria).
I hope you get a good sleep tonight. After not sleeping a couple nights in a row, you can reward yourself with a benzo for suffering so much even as much as skipping a night of sleep sometimes to get to that point.
No worries you'll be ok =]