I used to think that self harm helped with the suicidal thoughts because they would (temporarily) go away. But since I haven't been engaging in self harm as much (or at all for the last 286 days) I haven't been suicidal as much. So it's kind of opposite. But I'm suicidal right now and the intensity of wanting to self harm is high. I wonder if this is just an old pattern or if it is a way to make the suicidal feelings go away?