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Originally Posted by eskielover
The thing is, just like with him, talk is actually meaningless at this point. He knows what you have said( too damaged to recover the relationship) & you know what he says (I've changed)
You don't see his changed behavior & he doesn't see you ending the marriage. That is called "stalemate " not "checkmate"
For either of your words to mean anything to the other, ACTION must be taken appropriate with the words you are saying. Right now you are both just swimming in pointless circles.
Exactly what I was doing before I made my move & left & started a new independent life of my own
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Yeah. I would just say, Have Hope did physically block him, but she hasn't yet mentally blocked him. That may take more time, maybe, I don't know. I'm just saying that as long as Have Hope thinks about what he said, what he thinks, etc etc she's not free of it all yet. She'll have to get to the point where she is easily able to push these thoughts about him out of her mind at will. Until then yes, it will be swimming around in (mental) circles.
Though I do think she'll have to do work processing how he managed to keep her in the relationship. I read the stuff about how it was due to financial concerns but I really doubt that's the whole story. There must be an emotional-psychological side too to it. So she could direct her thoughts to that instead of swimming in these circles. Maybe it would help, just my guess based on what I've had to do myself to process similar things.
And I would say this is also about psychological boundaries. If you realise that your experience and the situation is really about you and your psyche, your feelings, emotions, and you focus on that to figure that out, and focus on your own feelings and own & accept them, rather than focusing on the other person, that sets up a boundary which will help with disengaging from bad patterns (such as the stalemate above) and taking action in effective ways. The above is an example of drawing these boundaries.