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Old Nov 14, 2021, 09:28 AM
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Some people are conditioned into apologising for their very existence (e.g. from childhood or with significant partners). Maybe it is a hang-up of theirs or stems from painful experiences about how they learnt to survive and/or be accepted by others.

So, I would not be so quick to judge them as 'manipulative'.
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