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Old Feb 18, 2022, 04:22 PM
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Agreed, that high EQ was botched in intimate relationships due to her issues. Personality disorders - not saying whether she's personality disordered or not - do have this feature, problems in intimate relations.
Well like I said, her father is bi-polar, and I have discussed everything about her and me in detail to my own psychologist over the last 11mos. She said the extreme mood swings, rage outbursts, and other issues that are causing our problems are most likely indicative of borderline personality disorder, possibly bi-polar disorder, or might even have both.

She said it's definitely more than just past trauma, because the extreme mood swings, uncontrollable rage, and irrational thinking shows something far beyond triggers from her past. There is trauma for sure, but there is also most definitely a personality disorder as well.

Her angry personality consumes both her and my happiness. Even if it got better once she was over her depression, other life difficulties will occasionally happen, and this would happen again. Unless she learns the core issue, acknowledges (and changes) her abusive behaviors, and realizes I'm not the source of the problem, she will just keep having one toxic relationship after another.

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I think she won't ever connect the dots unless maybe in therapy, but it would take a LOT for her even to try and look that deep.
Well, I did write her an e-mail where I gave her a list of questions I felt she should ask her psychologist. It was a list of questions that would've helped her psychologist realize the core issues weren't her and I, but how things were being handled. But, I'm pretty sure she was ignoring most of what I was saying/texting back then, so she may have either ignored or dismissed it and might not ask her psych any of them. And the one I emphasized was the most important was:

"Ask her if you were to enter another relationship now, if she feels you would have similar issues with someone else?"

I know she thinks that she would not have these issues with the right type of personality. But, no matter what their personality, no human could ever manage to dodge all the topics she needs you to dodge, especially because you don't even get warned until after she's already angry. It would be impossible. But, I feel like until she hears it from her psychologist, she will continue to not believe me. And if it took her dating others to realize this, I don't think I would ever be able to take her back in the future. I would have that stuck in my head and never get it out. I love her too much to deal with her having been with someone else after we met. I don't feel it should take that. She just needs a serious wake up call, hopefully from her psych in the near future.

Even if her psych just gets her to question the real source of the problems, I think if anything, she might have doubts and consider not cutting ties here entirely. All I want is a friendship. Some kind of distant communication to see if she actually does change. Something to help her realize it wasn't us.

I just don't get it. I don't get how if someone asks you a question you don't want to talk about, why not just tell them you don't want to talk about it and drop it? Or if they say something that hurts your feelings, let them know it hurt your feelings and why, so they have a chance to clarify or apologize or whatever is necessary to resolve it?

She just can't control her emotions long enough to do that. The moment she even *thinks* you may have said something in a negative way, it's immediate rage. No reasoning, no explaining, no resolving, just rage. Same thing every time - yelling, swearing at me, calling me names, insulting me, threatening the relationship (or ending it altogether). She can't control her emotions, and I don't deserve that. No man does.

Just makes me so sad when everything else was so amazing. Something I felt should be so simple, but not to her. I don't know if she can ever fix it. Maybe she is a narcissist and is just wired that way. I might never know for sure.

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Biggest red flag of all of it there, that she never admitted to these extreme behaviours being a serious problem and saw it as reasonable behaviours

The pattern too that you describe there, good for some weeks then unpredictably turning bad with extreme words and actions. That's very typical of serious problems like that.
Well, she never claimed she saw them as "reasonable," as she would acknowledge she needed to work on it. But, what bothered me is when I would flat out call it abusive, she never agreed. She never acknowledged it was abusive, over the top, excessive, uncalled for, undeserved, etc. The most I would get is that she "had to work on it."

And yea, the pattern along with a lot of other things is why my psych strongly believes she has at least one severe personality disorder.

Maybe if she took the right medication, it would improve a lot. I think that's a big part. She's been on an anti-depressant for over two decades. Same medication, never any re-evaluation, etc.

Maybe with CBT from her psych, she can retrain her mind and/or gain control of her emotions better. Or, maybe it will take her getting to the root cause of some of her issues - like the unhealed trauma of her past.

IF her psych is good, and IF she sticks with it long-term, they should help. But, I don't even know who her psych is, so no clue if she's good or not.

Mine has over 25+yrs under her belt, two doctorates, and tons of certs over the years. But, she never talked to my ex directly. She was supposed to last week, but she cancelled the appointment. I was real p*ssed. It could have helped. But, whatever I tell her that comes from my psych, she writes it off. Figured she needed to hear it from the horse's mouth herself.

I guess only time will tell what happens. It's just with how amazing we were at one point, and knowing it isn't an "us" issue, but other things hurting us (some of which can definitely be worked on), it's hard to really believe it's over. It's like the best part of my life is gone, and now all I'm living for is my kids. I can't fathom finding this again. I mean the good that we had, the chemistry, etc.