I agree with the above, hence my posting the link to their stop abuse support site. But I see competent adults as competent, culpable and responsible, especially for the safety of themselves and others, and they are guilty of wrongdoing and even evil when they violate that and cause sickening examples of harm, which are exactly the people you were talking about in your original post, and exactly the people others were defending as ‘ill.”Thanks for your words.