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Old Apr 11, 2022, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Etcetera1 View Post
I see, and I appreciate your describing all this in detail. I asked as I have a thread on people ignoring, ghosting, blocking etc., and my thread is about it being very upsetting because I prefer direct communication. I can't mind read from being ignored or ghosted.

I would say a logical person will not try to mind read so I actually disagree that he should have got the exact message from the unfriending. It can be rather disturbing without being told in a clear, specific way as to what exactly the problem is and what is expected of you.

Half of the population on Earth does need such direct communication about what exactly is to be done and how in a relationship. Yes, the other half of the population can read from hints and indirect talks about emotions and boundaries and whatnot. But a whole half of the population can't. Tries at best. (No I'm not saying men vs women. I'm saying one half and another half of the population. This doesn't entirely have to do with biological sex)

And, I would never say that "desire to be friends doesn't seem to allow someone to think logically", because it's about lack of clear and working communication rather than desire to be friends clouding things.

I would say you can be truly upfront if you communicate in a clear way so then if the person doesn't get it even when you directly explain your wishes and expectations to them, you can then just tell them that your point is that you will not be able to continue regular talks and why, and then if the other person is decent at all you do not have to ghost or block them like that.

Ofcourse, if they try to harass you after you told them that you definitely are not going to talk with them much say because you two are just too different or you don't feel okay with the relationship and it can't be fixed or whatever the issue is, then you definitely have no other option left than block them.

But unfriending and assuming that they get the message from that, is just upsetting to the other person and unclear and vague so I can understand if they tried to see if the relationship can be repaired. Because many people do this when they are unsatisfied while things can actually still be repaired with them. Or their mood can change and they can come back on their own anyways after ignoring or ghosting you.

It's also especially upsetting if the other person was always very nice, kind, everything, before suddenly changing their attitude. It's also when it will seem like the relationship can still be repaired. Even if the niceness and kindness was hiding negative feelings for a while, the other person will not know about that magically by mind reading or by reading indirect communication.

I personally dislike drama like that though and in my thread too I ended up at deciding that if someone ignores me or ghosts on me then I don't want to try and repair it if I was not told about what the problem is. Because if they can't communicate to me in a clear and direct and simple way, then I don't have any responsibility left about trying to repair anything. So then a burden was off my shoulders, thank god.

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EDIT: To make it totally ontopic though for this thread of mine here. What I think it is is that negative emotions accumulate on both sides, but both ignore or hide it for a while, and then it's just too late to keep even a superficial relationship or it all results in too much drama or something, so like drama with the ignoring and blocking and whatnot, too. And I'm like, yeah, mindfulness should allow us to face the negatives sooner and then it doesn't have to come to this!! Even if it's not going to be the greatest ever relationship, things can still be negotiated then and some superficial relationship can remain which can be best for everyone or if not then it's at least all cut off in time before it becomes more negativity and drama
I did tell him why before I unfriended him. I cannot make people understand who just refuse to get it which also added to the blocking because I didn't want to waste my busy time dealing with him. I did that way too long in my bad marriage. I would communicate. I would even make my ex repeat back to me what I told him to make sure he got it & he still didn't. Some people are so in their own mind about thinking the relationship is OK that they don't even understand what the other person is telling them.

My time & energy are valuable to me & people like that aren't.....better to walk away than play along with the drama
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