Thank you Place. My experience of you here is one of a very loving and sensitive person.

There's no escape from pain in this life. Just to be philosophically obnoxious for a moment: without pain, we can't know what joy is.

Loving means opening, and opening leads to vulnerability is some sense. If I look deeply though, my hurt never came from love, from my genuine giving of my love, (remember, giving is for free, no expectation of return). It takes some inward reflection to finally separate and distinguish the things that piggy back on love from the actual activity itself. Keep loving.