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Old Oct 26, 2022, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Open Eyes View Post
What I have learned recently is that toxic/narcissistic individuals are in constant need of validation. Their ego is in constant need to be fed so they often actually are drawn to or create drama in order to feel relevant. They like to create drama where they can become the center of attention. They develop their skills differently from a young age where they slowly learn techniques to stand out. They often get very good at drawing people into their poor me drama.

So in effect, they weaponize “in need of validation” as a tool for manipulation.
Well, while that is true, I find it unfair to point out any specific disorder. LOTS of disorders make people need a lot of validation - PTSD, social anxiety, borderline personality disorder, I mean basically all anxiety disorders...I mean even people without actual full-fledged disorders but recovering from abuse can need a lot of validation, even constant.

The last thing I want to do is to make people feel like they can't get validation here or that their requests for validation are somehow wrong. That's why I said that I can feel how I feel about constant validation, and still provide it constantly.

I wish I could just tell each and every person who posts needing validation that it doesn't matter what they are feeling. Feelings don't have right or wrong. You just feel that way. And you actually can't control how you feel about something when it happens. Don't judge yourself for your feelings. You feel how you feel. And it's no one's place to judge that.

Allow yourself to actually feel how you feel. ANd recognize that you can feel how you feel but not act on it or act opposing to how you feel because your feelings aren't your actions. I can be angry and not act on my anger.

Also, some people (myself included) may need constant validation until they get to a place where they feel confident enough in themselves and their own feelings that they can begin to learn to trust themselves and self-validate. That can take years, especially if they are still in the environment causing it, and some people may only make small progress (although even that small progress is worth it because you can feel so much better even with a small amount of self confidence and ability to self validate).
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Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder
Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia.

Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien

Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less...
Thanks for this!
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