so true....even wit and wisdom can be powerful tools of mis-use.....can't they? I'd be interested in anyone else who can add their own experience of having a bad site relationship that BEGAN as a supportive one....don't get me wrong...i know that personally my arm wasn't twisted, but guess what? some here are more vulnerable than I, and if you know someone is vulnerable, you don't play with that.....not deliberately..this is a support site...