K so here we at:

— PT for shoulder = no help

— myofascial release stuff that helped part of knee stuff still holding good a month on ( 90% pain reduction) - yay!

— nerve block diagnostic did eliminate pain for knee stuffs issue #2; nerve doc guy said surgery is way forward.

— myofascial D.O. guy said whoa! to nerve surgery because other stuff to try first (like hydrodisection). If cut up the nerves, likely will end pain but not address underlying issue which could get worse unnoticed because no pain signals leaving me in bad place in long run. I no want surgery anyhow because of bad experience already.

— I told D.O. guy to do the hydro stuff and he did 2 days ago. So far some relief - yay! Hoping it holds.

— Asked PA-C shoulder person and D.O. Knee guy bout myofascial stuffs as possible cause of shoulder stuffs - both said quite possible. Have appointment with D.O. guy to look at shoulder in February. 🤞

— lemonSys and lemonSys[K]