:-)

What is kind of interesting to me is that I think there is a comparable thing for guys, though. For example, there are fitting t-shirts that show off biceps. I remember we had a young assistant professor and a fair few undergraduate females had trouble listening to what he was saying instead of looking at his arms (he was into rowing). Is that a comparable thing to a well endowed women wearing a revealing t-shirt? I think so... So... I guess I'm saying that I don't think it is an issue of sexism. Or that it might be but that there is an issue that is dissociable from sexism.

> However, I also think that if you have a nice body men will look at it. There is a natural sort of attraction that occurs!

Yeah, I think that is right. I think that is also true that if a guy has a nice body then women will look at it, however. I also think that while my friend in history is indeed attractive there are many other women around who are comperably attractive to her. Those other women don't tend to get stared at in the same way that she does, however. If you put those other women in comperable clothes and they affected a comperable manner, then I think they would get comperably stared at, though.

I know a couple of other women and know that guys have raved about how absolutely stunning they were when they saw them in a dinner / nightclub setting. Once they saw them wearing their jeans and hoodies on weekends during the day then they changed their impression from 'stunning through and through' to 'they scrub up really well', however...

I guess... I want people to be attracted to me (if they are going to be attracted to me) on the basis of my personality and (perhaps in spite of) my jeans and hoodies. It isn't the case that all guys go goo gah over my friend in history... It is interesting to me that a couple of guys have said that it isn't surprising that she has had such a bad run of relationships considering the kinds of guys who she is most likely to attract given the way she presents herself. And IMHO those guys (who see that and who do their best to have better control over their attention for rational reasons) are the guys whose opinion of how attractive I am is an opinion that means the most to me.