Thanks all. I'm still here in the hospital, had a really bad reoccurrance of the pain last night (apparently they jumped the gun a little having me try liquid diet) so I'm back to ice chips. I just woke up, pain-free so that's good. Una, you're right actually dr said it was likely somehow cause by my appendix surgery being unusual, they had to go in from my opposite side remember, I guess that caused residual trauma or something. My sister bless her heart flew out last night to be with me. Dr said ill be on blood thinners the rest of my life now.