@Tart Cherry Jam I forgot to tell you that I grew up with unfluoidated water too. I did get "squish" at school to help some and flouride at the dentist every 6 months but out water at home was well water and I hated the water in town which I think did have fluoride. So I had as much as my parents could do but I'm sure that this is part of my problems. Getting us dental care was very important to my mom who has had a lifetime of dental work after not having dental care as a child. My old dentist also said this is partly hereditary although that was before things started getting a lot worse when I switched to clozapine.