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Default Aug 30, 2023 at 04:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Arbie View Post
I don't believe the marriage itself is toxic, even though those behaviors certainly are. My physical and mental health has improved by leaps and bounds since we've been together. Where I was severely hurt by situations in past relationships, I know it doesn't sound like it, but in this marriage I've found a lot of healing. The behaviors, yes. The whole marriage, no.

Because as slowly as it happens, he does learn. Eventually we can talk it over. He and I were both feeling abused by the other when this conflict happened, and yes, I was being abusive to him also. Fortunately, we did get around to discussion and problem solving.

He cut me off because, as he saw it, I had already said it. I explained to him that while I had *started* to say it about four times, he hadn't allowed me to finish the sentence. If I don't think I was heard the first, second, or third time I say something, I am going to say it the fourth. I'd like for him to give me some indication that he heard me, and then repeating myself won't be necessary.

He left the room in the middle of my sentence because he felt like he was being verbally abused. Granted, a therapist did say that if our discussions get heated, we need to back off and pick it up later when we're calmer. That's what he was trying to do. I recommended that he wait until I finish my sentence, and then TELL me he's leaving the room. It's the same thing as when it happens on the phone. He doesn't like for me to just hang up on him in anger. He wants me to tell him I can't continue the discussion right now, and that I'm going to hang up. Whether hanging up or leaving the room, same principle. Works both ways.

I have discussed with him that just because I may be angry doesn't mean I'm mad *at him.* I just need to be allowed the vent.
How can the marriage not to be toxic when you have these types of toxic incidents and behaviors occurring? Toxicity is not isolated like that. How can the marriage possibly be healthy? A person can still be thriving or doing better, and can still be abused. Perhaps you're not ready to accept this reality about your marriage.

Your husband disrespects you. And you cannot teach someone to respect you. They either do or they don't and that's the way you get treated.

From what you described, explaining yourself to him does not mean you are being verbally abusive. Are you getting that accusation and claim from him?

Him walking out of the room while you're in mid-sentence is disrespect and total disregard. Him interrupting you and talking over you is abusive and disrespectful.

I suspect that you're so used to these behaviors that it's hard for you to see how abusive they really are.

If you are in fact abusive yourself, please, if you would, describe an incident whereby you thought you were being abusive.. what was the context and what was he doing and saying to you at the time?

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