I´m not at an employment agency and the social worker I see now has nothing to do with my former contacts within mental health services.
As often you indrectly blame the person describing his/her situation in this forum by poiting to what he/she has done wrong and what the other party has done right.
There are many more than me who´s on sick leave and who don´t work for years and I don´t see that as the person´s own fault. I believe a small minority likes being on welfare but for most of disabled and unemployed people I think their situation has a very broad range of reasons.
I didn´t say I asked my social worker for grief counselling and it was just an example. If I had been at an regular employment agency where people look for jobs and not having any disability or other problems that affect them in their search for jobs, I could agree with you that the administrators there can´t engage in much else than the search for jobs.
But in this employment program they admit people on sick leave and people with other social and medical problems.
It doesn´t matter what the government thinks they should or shouldn´t fund as this isn´t a matter of attitude. I never said I want random discussions about feelings with this social worker. I said what I feel about certain things, things that have happened to me affects my ability to work and she needs to take that into consideration.
This situation is very similar to how public mental health care works as they also thinks that stating things like "you get ten sessions and then you need to manage on your own" or "we only offer this and that treatment and you need to go with that or else we can´t offer you anything" will help the patient.
Then there´s a large amount of people who doesn´t get the help and treatment they need and then it doesn´t matter that the government thinks they shouldn´t fund any more treatment.
Also, it would be interesting to know how they actually thinks the social workers should work with their clients. For some, just needing someone who helps them finding a workplace, just administering that will work. But for everyone else, how should a client act in a session with them? Should they pretend they´re fine so the social worker can focus on what they think is important? Should they limit what the client tells them by allowing them to talk about what they need to for some minutes and then force them to talk about what´s suitable within the employment program?
You can´t cut off some parts from a person and expect them to perform within the frames of a program, be it an employment program, a health care program or else.
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Originally Posted by divine1966
I understand it’s disability type employment service. Those are the ones I was referring to as well.
Over the years you’ve been provided with many social workers and therapists through this employment agency. You didn’t like most of them but it’s impressive they provide you with one. I think it’s more than any vocational rehabilitation will do regardless of a client’s disability. They sure won’t do it here for years, they eventually expect you to be employed.
Of course it would be nice if a social worker discussed other things with you and it’s ok to share with her but clearly it’s not why she is there. Also honestly they aren’t going to provide counseling for grief. I lost many family members over the years. I took bereavement leave and then had to resume my duties. Sometimes people take extended medical leave due to grief. It’s understandable one struggles with grief but employers and employment agencies aren’t going to counsel you on grief.
I don’t think you need to make it easier on anyone but maybe you expect something from this agency that they can’t provide.they are likely government funded and government expects people eventually to get of assistance and work if they can. Government isn’t going to fund conversation about feelings. That’s just not how it works
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