Exactly. Well, I had to quit using IE with my Vista, and use mozilla. I had to uninstall my McAfee a few times...which reminds me, I haven't reinstalled it yet That's what I'll do when I finish writing this.

I still have a problem, so it isn't McAfee on this one item.

Several of us had real issues with IE7, btw. Before I went to mozilla firefox, I deleted 7 and ran on 6 only...others have found this helps too. You can delete IE7 the updates appear to not be compatible with internet life

Good wishes... any more ideas, tell us...and if I think of something else I 'll let you know too!

OH I had to add the chat server address (not just PC addy) to the allow list! I could only get that by trying to load chat, and quickly copying the address at that point.