Thanks, I just want people to know there is an alternative to 12 step programs. I found AA frustrating in that everytime I expressed total sobriety or full responsibility for my problem I was always smashed down with clever jargon or a we'll see attitude as well as a deadly acceptance of relapse. I don't know how government agencies allow and support this. I find that sending DUI or drug offenders into a mandated new religion where future abuse is tolerated, expected and guaranteed quite disturbing to say the least. Now that I don't self medicate I am focusing on my mental health/illness.