Yes, September, we are talking about love.

And yes September, love is gentle and kind. And yes September, It doesn't seek its own reward, although I am surprised that you quoted this one. And when someone loves another or others in general they should try very hard to treat them kindly. I think the only place we may part ways is that I believe, everyone deserves that type of treatment. Even those who don't believe in, or don't believe as strongly in "you know who" as you or others may.

It isn't a hard concept, and I would even goes as far as saying it was even encouraged by "you know who".

And you are correct, love never should be about controlling, pushing or hurting another, although again I am surprised that you have referred to this concept.

And you and I even agree that in the process of saving a child from getting hit by a car, we may have to hurt them when we pull them away, but it will be worth it to us because we would be saving their life. Agreed!

But if you were trying to use the above example and have it relate to your faith and your ability to save peoples lives here for "you know who", then I strongly disagree.

I respect your faith, and know that saving peoples lives for "you know who" is very important to you, but you have also acknowledged that sometimes you may have to hurt people to accomplish that goal. That is a very wrong approach to use on a mental health board.

Most people on these boards have suffered enough hurt to last them a lifetime. Some people may have even been hurt in the name of a specific religion, maybe your religion.

We don't know everyones story, nor should we. But we should respect that everyone has a story, and everyone probably has a hurt that they may keep buried deep inside.

A mental health board should be a place were we feel safe. A spiritual sanctuary should be just that...... "A Sanctuary".

A place where we can all ask for prayers, or good thoughts when we have a need and offer the same to someone else when they ask. We shouldn't have to believe a certain way to offer support to one another, nor should we expect others to believe like us to offer us support.

If saving lives is so important that you feel that hurting someone in the process is okay, then go to a board where the people are better equipped to deal with that type of approach.

Why don't you go to a board where the sole purpose is to discuss which religion is better, whose beliefs are right. Jump into some of those dialogues and save some lives! I have to think that the people on those boards are better able to handle the hurt you may have to inflict to save their lives. But maybe that would be too much work.....

Peace and love to EVERYONE, and especially you September