i know hon .... i do think men like that exist .... i just dont think my hubby is very romantic .... i could live without the romance and just read books for a it of escapism .... but i just wish he could say those 3 little words whilst looking into my eyes once in a while .... is it so hard? I know some men probably wish their wives were more romantic, it works both ways ........ i feel like i am whinging .... he has supported me such a lot ..... sigh. I think i'm just off my rocker ..... there are women who would die for our relationship ..... guess i'm just an old trout for moaning..... i'll keep reading my romantic books ..... jin