also, I looked in the mirror this morning and found a red half circle looking mark on me, my wife say's it looks like ringworm...thanks NWTR, I'm much less concerned with what can cause by bodily death than I am about my spiritual death! or, that my present misfortunes or not fit to be compared with the glory that awaits! thats the point...His grace is sufficient for me. A very wise woman once told me that sometimes God takes everything away from us so that we can see that He's really all that we need! I think she was right.