Em... This is what I mean. I know there are several ways of acquiring self-esteem. I think MJ was the one that changed the wording on the "I AM.." exercise. I have no problem with that. It's when someone tries to confuse the issue.

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The problem I'm having is Now I'm doubting that self-esteem is needed or do we build up our ego's The self-esteem Fraud thread has me totally confused and angery

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I'm not trying to make it "my way or the highway."