just got home about half hour ago. thanks for the hugs thoughts and prayers. it doesn't look really good for dad's bladder right now. the dr said it is the worst he has ever seen in his career. he is a cancer specialist and the professor at the medical college. he says the bladder is probably going to have to come out even if it is not cancer. dad just turned 79 so it is pretty bad. will keep you posted as it develops.