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Oct 20, 2008, 10:54 PM
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Member Since: Jul 2008
Location: east of the sun, west of the moon
Posts: 2,259
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this debate could go one forever and we can never resove it because we do see it differently. people like blue or me who have been beaten get sick at the idea of hurting anyone. as a parent i was trying to find the way to do right by my children as best i understood the faith that guided my life. the bible said a lot about training kids up to respect and love God and just as much about "do not frustrate" your children, do not treat them harshly.
when i go down to be baseline of all of this we are all saying - love the children and train them to be good, responsible people. do NOT do things that break their hearts, their spirit, their minds or bodies - that is hellishly wrong.!!!!!!
we need to agree to disagree on some of this because our different backgrounds, perspectives and degrees of abuse endured cause us to NOT be able to come to ONE consensus of how to rear our children. The Bible which i go by for spiritual guidance says to "speak the truth in love". when somebody tells me something unpleasant that i really need to know doing it with love and kindness is what helps me get past the bitter taste to the truth i need to have inside.
i appreciate that many have shared their experiences and wisdom, this is not a really easy job to do, but you all did it well! Thanks!!! 
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