hi Capp, Muffy, All..

this is a good quote i like from you Cap:

'and it would be interesting if anyone can share without being hateful.'

i dont believe anyone means any harm on this thread .. when we talk on matters close to heart, misunderstandings can and do happen and its really important to find ways to work out understandings as much as possible, whenever possible..

i dont see the hate and intolerance being completely a religious/spirituality concern exclusively, but instead, its a people problem and it s easily remedied if kind people would learn a few simple assertion skills... for me, it was learning the difference between assertion and aggression...

when we feel a need to defend sometimes we might feel distrurbed enough to over defend and then that is interpreted as an attack on others..

we can take a breath and think a minute about all the possible meanings of any statement.. its the nature of words to have more than one meaning and it isnt really helping when we dont give ourselves the time to think thoughts through completely and in the most healthy way, or the way which allows us maximum growth as a human species...

i have faith that we can rise above the bullying and intolerance..