I'm not a very frequent poster here. That day I happened to visit and I found the joke mostly funny and a little puzzling. I was the first to say something critical. Some told me to leave, another called me a name. As a new person I understood that I offended some. You don't go into a room of strangers screaming complaints about the hor'dourves. I probably wouldn't have created such a stir if I hadn't been so sarcastic. I'm sure differing opinions are tolerated here if people are civil about their points of view. So as the new guy keeping kind of quiet since the whole affair, I apologise for jumping to conclusions. BTW, the little hot dogs on toothpicks are great. Topher