i think we need a spot somewhere for all of this....we're getting scattered now...i'm 20 lbs over weight and i think it's affecting my arthritis..just thought of that day before yesterday. Ray, i had a vision of me weighing and measuring at work tomorrow@@@ butt-naked!! kidding!! i can't wear my regular clothes now and that really frustrates me. tell lme where and when to clock in for this project!! pattynearlynormal