i watched John Stockton play for years with Karl.....I go far enough back that I remember seeing Moses Malone playing for Philadelphia. his heart was broken when they traded him right at Dr, J's last year. now that was low. he really wanted to be there with Doc that year. he was a great player. i flew to St. Lucia about 8 years ago and sat by Julius Irving for about 7 hours. he is way coooooool and oh, so handsome!!