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Old Dec 03, 2008, 05:02 PM
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> fears... over not having conflict

So the conflict brings peace?
The first part was a quote, not directly from me. But the fear, for me at least, is that I will have to agree, and not be able to disagree. In that sense, conflict is better than submission and a false peace.

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I have conflicts with my T and can resolve them only when I disagree with him and can tolerate that.

So if you cannot tolerate it then what happens?
If I cannot tolerate my separateness and disagreement, then I am in big trouble; I have to agree and submit my own thinking to his, or spiral into an internal obsessive argument.

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I keep my ideas that are different from T's and my perception of him as being less than totally wonderful.

So you feel bad about this?
It is somewhat difficult for me to keep my ideas; I feel the need to agree with his (and anyone else's). There is a conflict between keeping my ideas and wanting to agree with other peoples'. When I am able to keep my ideas it basically feels good (though possibly dangerous), even when I have to disagree with others.

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I am increasingly able to be separate from him.

Because you can disagree with him?
Not because. But I find myself increasingly able to separate myself from others and stand my ground even sometimes when people feel the need to dictate my actions.

I have the sense that I am not talking about something that is familiar to you -- the requirement to submit to another's control. In childhood it was a battle to try to keep some control for myself and I lost that battle, because it was made clear to me (by force) that any separation was not allowed. The only allowed course was submission.

In my first therapy I found my then therapist did not want me to be in control either. He seemed to feel the need to control me -- all for my own good, of course. As he put it, it was his responsibility to make sure I was on the "right" course (as he saw it).


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