There are as many ways to get sober as there are to get drunk mjv1208. Your pretty familiar with the getting drunk ways...as I am,,as all alcoholics are.

Say I wanted to go to California and I looked at pictures and maps and dreamed of the Pacific all day and all night...And did it the next day and the day after...

I talked to all kinds of folks asking what was the best route...which was easiest,,which was the most optimum...which way showed me more...Everyone had an opinion..

All of it was well intentioned...my dream and their opinions...some folks even shared in my fantasy in their private moments..smiling too of the deep dark blue of the biggest ocean in the world...

But is was all naught until I decided to go...to put the visions aside and step out and begin the journey....for real...no pretending..no imagining...just begin...to put one mile behind another and another....

What I am trying to say here..long winded for sure,,is that it really doesn't matter what you choose mjv...there are downsides to any route as there are positives. The problem is deciding to go...with the commitment and willingness to do whatever is necessasry to get there...

In my last days of self destruction,,if someone told me I had to feed alligators bare handed to stay away from a drink...I would have simply reached out for the food and asked which hand?

I wish you well sir and may you have the Happiest of Birthdays..with a forever present...

Lenny