i'd like to present an idea concerning our younger posters. if we enter a forum and see a thread where a youngster has posted and used, oh let's say, a four letter word, let's not jump to judgment. my experience is that a poster could be in a great deal of pain and that their posting style felt appropriate at the time. if we do criticize sad poster, we are pretty much asking them to leave the forum. young adults don't always think before typing. in some cases, we might even cause that poster to act upon their impulses..that has happened here and i'm just sick about it..please be gentle with the younger ones....thanks, pat