ok, im slow sometimes Jacq... i see better what you meant now and the only thing i would add is that for me, seeing a T did make me spend more time thinking about my own little area and in some ways i did begin to feel that i was surrounding myself in my own echoes and the world of therapeutic behaviors.. i felt disconnected from a majority of my society because the majority of society is not in therapy.. i needed a meeting of both worlds, 'mine' and 'theirs' .. becoming a community member is helping me to better define my own role and place... i dont know if this helps? thanks for letting me reply