Seems to me someone was asking this before. it wasn't you was it? Anyway I am with you I have tried and tried. My slip knot is pretty hot though. I swear every time i try to cast on it is different. My mother could do everything ,unfortunatley I didn't inherit her skills. Doesn't notthemama knit? What I have done is make the slip know and then pick up wool and turn it right around and then slip that on the needle. I don't know if that is right though. Good Luck.