Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old Mar 22, 2017, 10:58 PM
justafriend306
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
How any times have we all heard that, "It could be worse..." What the heck is worse than hell?

"At least you're not depressed." "At least you're not in the hospital."

Really? Did you actually just say that? I shake my head in disgust; and frustration. They don't get it. Depression is getting a lot of airplay lately and more people consequently have a bit of an idea about it but completely lost on them is the notion of anxiety. I tell them it is more than just nerves more than a worry. It is fear I tell them; complete and abject fear.

I told someone, "You know that fear you have about the waters at the tropical beach? That you don't know what is lurking there? Imagine feeling that all day everyday."

But still they look at you quizzically and again say, "But it could be worse.."
Hugs from:
*Laurie*, Anonymous50909, avlady, NurseCollie, Sunflower123, sunnydisposition, woe-be-gone
Thanks for this!
*Laurie*, Hope 51, made08, Sunflower123

advertisement
  #2  
Old Mar 22, 2017, 11:28 PM
Outer 12 Outer 12 is offline
New Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by justafriend306 View Post
How any times have we all heard that, "It could be worse..." What the heck is worse than hell?

"At least you're not depressed." "At least you're not in the hospital."

Really? Did you actually just say that? I shake my head in disgust; and frustration. They don't get it. Depression is getting a lot of airplay lately and more people consequently have a bit of an idea about it but completely lost on them is the notion of anxiety. I tell them it is more than just nerves more than a worry. It is fear I tell them; complete and abject fear.

I told someone, "You know that fear you have about the waters at the tropical beach? That you don't know what is lurking there? Imagine feeling that all day everyday."

But still they look at you quizzically and again say, "But it could be worse.."
I suppose everything could be worse. But saying that doesn't make it better.
Hugs from:
avlady
  #3  
Old Mar 23, 2017, 12:03 AM
childofchaos831's Avatar
childofchaos831 childofchaos831 is offline
Elder
 
Member Since: Nov 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,037
What is worse than being terrified to leave the house, but knowing that you have no choice? How do you explain to someone that you are afraid of being in public? Not around people, some people are okay, good, safe... afraid of being in public. Gas stations, the grocery store, a doctor's office. How do you explain that to someone who has never felt that amount of fear, where the world itself is what is terrifying?

Thank you for posting this, it made me feel less alone. Like I said, it is not people for me, necessarily. I have places that I feel safe that are not my house, where I can be social, even with strangers. When I tell people I have "social anxiety" they don't get it... "but you are so easy to talk to and get along with, you can make anyone feel welcome." It's not really social anxiety, but what else do you call it?
__________________


Diagnoses:
PTSD with Dissociative Symptoms, Borderline Personality Disorder, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Fibromyalgia and Chronic Pain
Hugs from:
avlady, Sunflower123, woe-be-gone
  #4  
Old Mar 23, 2017, 11:49 AM
jacky8807's Avatar
jacky8807 jacky8807 is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Oct 2014
Location: jakevill
Posts: 2,622
I prefer even the blackest of depression to the Times I have had panic attack upon panic attack day in day out. Panic /anxiety is the worst.
__________________
I used to rule the world
Seas would rise when I gave the word
Now in the morning, I sleep alone
Sweep the streets I used to own
I used to roll the dice
Feel the fear in my enemy's eyes
Listen as the crowd would sing
Now the old king is dead! Long live the king!
One minute I held the key
Next the walls were closed on me
And I discovered that my castles stand
Upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand
Hugs from:
avlady, Sunflower123, winter4me
Thanks for this!
Sunflower123, winter4me
  #5  
Old Mar 23, 2017, 03:37 PM
Unrigged64072835 Unrigged64072835 is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Oct 2010
Location: Under the noise floor
Posts: 18,579
It could be better too, though. That's the thing. People discounting how one feels is a serious issue. Friends are supposed to support, not explain away.
Hugs from:
avlady
Thanks for this!
anais_anais, childofchaos831
  #6  
Old Mar 26, 2017, 01:44 AM
sunnydisposition sunnydisposition is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: India
Posts: 515
Anxiety is fear in its most primitive form. It sets so deep in the bones that i cant shake that feeling of being in an imminent danger. How do i protect myself? thats the only thing that runs through my mind over and over and over all day long. No matter how much i think, i dont seem to find the answer to that question. Yet i cant stop thinking. coz Its a fight of thoughts and thinking is the only weapon i got to fight it ( or so mind choses to believe).

No one can truly, or even remotely begin to understand ( not even our doctors) what we really go through, unless they have felt it themselves. If they only knew, the strength it takes to survive the unending tragedy unfolding inside our broken heads..
Hugs from:
avlady, Sunflower123
  #7  
Old Mar 26, 2017, 03:30 PM
lotusblossom19's Avatar
lotusblossom19 lotusblossom19 is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Mar 2017
Location: Lotus Land
Posts: 1,425
Yep, even if it is technically true, I have never found that response to be helpful. Makes me feel like my very real and very relentless struggle is being trivialized, especially after I have taken the time to elaborate on the severity of the issue and that is all a person has to say to me. Like, can you try just a liiiiittle harder? I suppose some people won't ever really get it unless they really go through it, but I think there are alternative responses that can offer a little more comfort like, "wow, that sounds really tough. That can't be easy. I hear you." It can make a significant difference just to feel like your words are being given enough value to be received genuinely as they are presented, even if the person on the other end has never personally known your experience.
Hugs from:
avlady, Sunflower123
  #8  
Old Mar 27, 2017, 05:36 PM
Nike007's Avatar
Nike007 Nike007 is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,561
I've been told that "at least you can do things" or "at least you get food and have a home" by my mother. I have been told stuff like this and it never helps.
__________________
Join my social group about mental health awareness!
Link: http://forums.psychcentral.com/group...awareness.html

DX: GAD; ASD; recurrent, treatment-resistant MDD; PTSD

RX: Prozac 20 mg; BuSpar 10 mg 2x a day; Ativan 0.5 mg PRN; Omega 3 Fish Oil; Trazodone, 50 mg (sleep); Melatonin 3-9 mg

Previous RX: Zoloft, 25-75mg; Lexapro 5-15mg; Luvox 25-50mg; Effexor XR 37.5-225mg


I have ASD so please be kind if I say something socially unacceptable. Thank you.
Hugs from:
avlady, Sunflower123
  #9  
Old Mar 28, 2017, 11:49 AM
Entity06's Avatar
Entity06 Entity06 is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2017
Location: Romania
Posts: 155
This is one of the most insensitive things to say and, ironically, it usually comes from people who, by their logic, should be told the same thing when they feel bad about something that, compared to anxiety and depression, is less distressing.

The reality is that, as sad as it sounds, we're each sort of used to the reality of our socio-economic condition and baseline level of health. So we all suffer an intense or less intense amount about different things, based on that default level we've been accustomed to. After all, we even each experience physical pain differently, so the same exact blow will feel differently depending on the person.

So saying others have it worse, to make you feel better and minimize your pain, is not only insensitive but possibly downright not true. How does anyone else know the way you experience pain as opposed to how someone else feels theirs? And why say such a thing in the first place when it would be a little malicious if the fact that someone else is presumably suffering worse than I am is something to make me feel better. It would imply someone else's suffering is something we're glad about.

My mom's always told me stuff like this. When I say I have anxiety ,that I've been severely deprived of my emotional needs for affection, intimacy and so on, when I talk about having been mocked and being gender non-conforming and how everything makes me hurt a lot, she will often go like yeah but at least you have a comfortable house and you've had enough money. Of course, missing those things as well would have added to it and made my life worse, but that doesn't mean I'm not suffering enough now or that I should feel guilty for my pain.

It's even easier, in my mind, to just say something positive and validating rather than doing this mental gymnastics.
Hugs from:
avlady
  #10  
Old Mar 28, 2017, 12:01 PM
avlady avlady is offline
Wise Elder
Community Liaison
 
Member Since: Jan 2013
Location: angola ny
Posts: 9,803
I know what you mean, as I suffer from agoraphobia every day. I fear everything outside of the house. I don't like the way my husband drives but I have no other way to get to my doc appointments etc, shopping. one thing that does help is when we go shopping and I have a lot to spend. I love shopping and it doesn't make sence since I hate going any where else.
Hugs from:
Sunflower123
  #11  
Old Mar 29, 2017, 06:04 PM
PMAD PMAD is offline
New Member
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 3
I can't stand when people who have never had a true anxiety disorder or panic attack dare say the words"oh it makes me so anxious" about trivial things like a messy room or whatnot
Hugs from:
Sunflower123
  #12  
Old Mar 30, 2017, 09:02 AM
Anonymous50909
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I hate this response as well. I generally take it to mean they are trying to make me feel better, but it doesn't. It adds to my guilt over anxiety and/or depression. It's like saying I don't have a right to feel that way.
Hugs from:
Sunflower123
  #13  
Old Mar 31, 2017, 02:40 PM
BreakForTheLight BreakForTheLight is offline
Grand Member
 
Member Since: Jan 2015
Location: Europe
Posts: 852
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacky8807 View Post
I prefer even the blackest of depression to the Times I have had panic attack upon panic attack day in day out. Panic /anxiety is the worst.
This. I've been really deep in depression and I never ever want to go there again, But if I could trade in this anxiety....... I'd consider it.
Hugs from:
Sunflower123
  #14  
Old Apr 05, 2017, 07:34 AM
justafriend306
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I finally received confirmation of what I have felt were my diagnoses. I suppose doctors and psychiatrists avoid labelling as a way of not making things worse by sending their patients into worry and hysteria. I've known full well I have bad Anxiety. My psychiatrist and I have discussed it but until yesterday he has never said "You have x, y, and z." The only diagnosis I was given for certain was Bipolar 1.

I needed a form filled out for a military disability pension and it was the first time I saw, written down on paper, the list of those disorders I have been diagnosed with - of which Anxiety is one.

I feel a sense of vindication. Now, when someone says "it could be worse" or "it's all in your head" I can say in response "no way, like hell it is".
Hugs from:
Sunflower123
  #15  
Old Apr 08, 2017, 09:26 AM
sunnydisposition sunnydisposition is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: India
Posts: 515
I just remembered something. My best friend, i tell him about my attempted suicide, and he sympathizes. Offers comforting words. But every time after that when we talked and i brought up the challenges i face, he was like, "you went through the worst experience life has to offer, now you can face anything. the worst is over he would say. It just cant get any worse.

but he doesn't get it, does he? Not that i blame him. How can someone understand what they cant see, or havent experienced themselves. I know i wont. Even the kindest person might not be able to comfort us, or might actually end up offending us, until the ignorance about the ordeal of mental illness prevails, it will continue to remain so. the truth is, we 've been dealt a really ****** hand and we cant do much about it. But there is a silver lining, we've got each other. we understand and know exactly what all of us are going through or have went through. we have to be there for each other. only we can do that. They never will be able to do that. Not really.
Hugs from:
Sunflower123
Reply
Views: 1842

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:39 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.