How are you all dealing with coronavirus and the restrictions many of us have to live

AzulOscuro · Nov 06, 2020 at 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Discombobulated

Schools have been one of the main sources of infection where I live and I personally know a couple of teaching assistants who contracted it at work. I think the rationale of keeping them open is the children can't afford to lose anymore education. So they are in effect saying the infection will go through the school sector. I'm unsure of the wisdom of this too. It would've made sense to coincide lockdown with at least some of half term holiday to me.

Also many parents can’t work from home so they can not afford to take care of kids.
Honestly, it has been a very tough situation for everyone.

AzulOscuro · Nov 06, 2020 at 06:57 AM

Here, in Spain, apart from the lockdown from 10 pm to 6 am, it’s been putting the emphasise on hotel industry and restaurants business. In many communities bars, restaurants, hotels are going to suffer a total lockdown for at least 15 days. Considering that it’s the most important sector for Economy here, it’s being a big tragedy.

Nov 06, 2020 at 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AzulOscuro

Here, in Spain, apart from the lockdown from 10 pm to 6 am, it’s been putting the emphasise on hotel industry and restaurants business. In many communities bars, restaurants, hotels are going to suffer a total lockdown for at least 15 days. Considering that it’s the most important sector for Economy here, it’s being a big tragedy.

Most sectors, apart from grocery stores, took a hit in the last few months. Some brands didn't survive. The rest are making cuts to survive. All in all every sector has been affected. No one knows how to deal with the situation.

Discombobulated · Nov 09, 2020 at 11:00 AM

How is everyone feeling after the news of an apparently 90% effective vaccine on course?

Even flu vaccine is only 40-60% effective so this sounds extremely promising.

Personally I feel cautiously optimistic, cautious because it's not with us yet, but very very optimistic.

Hope everyone else is doing okay and feeling a little better because of it.

Lockdown 2 going much better than the first one here too- no panic buying in the store where I work and people seem calmer. Maybe it's experience- the lady I buy takeout coffee from jokes if there's lockdown 3 we will be professional at it by then!

rechu · Nov 09, 2020 at 05:07 PM

I'm glad this lockdown seems to be going better for you. My municipality is still holding steady in phase 3. Fingers crossed!

AzulOscuro · Nov 10, 2020 at 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Discombobulated

How is everyone feeling after the news of an apparently 90% effective vaccine on course?

Even flu vaccine is only 40-60% effective so this sounds extremely promising.

Personally I feel cautiously optimistic, cautious because it's not with us yet, but very very optimistic.

Hope everyone else is doing okay and feeling a little better because of it.

Lockdown 2 going much better than the first one here too- no panic buying in the store where I work and people seem calmer. Maybe it's experience- the lady I buy takeout coffee from jokes if there's lockdown 3 we will be professional at it by then!

Lol! Good joke!
Sure, we will end up being experts in immune system, deseases and mass destruction weapons. lol!

I’m hopeful for the vaccine. Thus it’s one of these ones that consists on giving the instruction to the immune system so it can fight better against the virus in case you get infested. Isn’t it amazing? How scientists can make these kinds of things.

AzulOscuro · Nov 11, 2020 at 12:10 PM

I’m worried because now there’s this about conspiracy thing as to what the vaccine concerns. I have talked to some people and none of them want to be the first in getting the vaccine.
I can’t avoid wondering what kind of world we are living in that we find so hard to trust anything or anyone. Such a hostile world. Where all that fears come from? I wonder.

Deilla · Nov 11, 2020 at 01:38 PM

I need some medical appointments. But I won't make them right now. Our officials are saying that these are 'dark days'. I have one next week that I may reschedule. Or maybe I should go now before things get worse.

BreakForTheLight · Nov 11, 2020 at 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AzulOscuro

I’m worried because now there’s this about conspiracy thing as to what the vaccine concerns. I have talked to some people and none of them want to be the first in getting the vaccine.
I can’t avoid wondering what kind of world we are living in that we find so hard to trust anything or anyone. Such a hostile world. Where all that fears come from? I wonder.

Honestly, I won't be first in line either. But for me it's nothing to do with conspiracy theories or not trusting.... it's just going so quick. There simply hasn't been any time to witness possible side effects in the longer term.

But since I'm neither high risk nor in a vital profession, I'm not in the first group to be offered the vaccine anyway

AzulOscuro · Nov 11, 2020 at 01:52 PM

Well, so let’s leave others take the risk. It’s always the same story.
I love this “brotherhood”

AzulOscuro · Nov 11, 2020 at 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakForTheLight

Honestly, I won't be first in line either. But for me it's nothing to do with conspiracy theories or not trusting.... it's just going so quick. There simply hasn't been any time to witness possible side effects in the longer term.

But since I'm neither high risk nor in a vital profession, I'm not in the first group to be offered the vaccine anyway

My own sister told me that she didn’t want to receive the vaccine until she sees the results in others. Things are always for being made because we trust in someone else doing things for us.

Discombobulated · Nov 11, 2020 at 04:04 PM

I am more than happy to take a vaccine - I am signed up for the trial as a volunteer but unlikely to be called at this point, I will if they call me.

I have done a medical trial before for a med, it really was no bother and the medical checks they put me through were very thorough.

I am married to a clinically vulnerable person and volunteer with many others so for me as a youngish fit healthy person I feel the vaccine is very low risk/high gain.

AzulOscuro · Nov 13, 2020 at 01:39 PM

Here, the same if I have to put the vaccine to avoid higher risks for the population, I put it.

AzulOscuro · Nov 14, 2020 at 11:03 AM

Today someone told me that it often takes 5 years to test a vaccine and see if there’s a risk in its usage.
I had a different information. And I was shocked. I heard that it was often needed a year, working on it straight away.
I understand know the reticence of some people.
Which information you have about it, guys?

BreakForTheLight · Nov 14, 2020 at 11:53 AM

Even if it had been a year - it has been less than that by the time they are planning on starting vaccination. Germany is already setting up a strategy to start.

I've just seen the H1N1 vaccine been brought up several times that was linked to a rise in narcolepsy cases.... even if it's rare, it makes me a little nervous.

AzulOscuro · Nov 14, 2020 at 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakForTheLight

Even if it had been a year - it has been less than that by the time they are planning on starting vaccination. Germany is already setting up a strategy to start.

I've just seen the H1N1 vaccine been brought up several times that was linked to a rise in narcolepsy cases.... even if it's rare, it makes me a little nervous.

Here, the same, they are about to apply the vaccines. Of course I’m not gonna be in the first groups so I will have to wait but sooner or latter I know that I will have to take it. Call me gullible but I still trust in scientists work, the problem is that politicians make decisions that are not based on what experts claim.

Discombobulated · Nov 16, 2020 at 11:25 AM

I can understand reticence, and I don't have any specific knowledge about these vaccines other than what I read in the press. They will have to apply to the fda for permission to fast track as an emergency.

We all have to read up and make our decision based on the facts we have.

This reminds me of the dilemma we had over 20 years ago with MMR vaccine and an alleged link to autism (subsequently disproven) at the time many parents were uncertain. In the end we did vaccinate our baby but it was a big dilemma.

TishaBuv · Nov 16, 2020 at 11:44 AM

I just had groceries delivered for the first time out of more fear about corona now. I haven’t been wiping down the groceries. Do I really need to start doing that? We’ve just been washing out hands with soap. Ugh!

Discombobulated · Nov 16, 2020 at 01:55 PM

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I just had groceries delivered for the first time out of more fear about corona now. I haven’t been wiping down the groceries. Do I really need to start doing that? We’ve just been washing out hands with soap. Ugh!

I don't know. I never have myself but have heard some people say they do.

BreakForTheLight · Nov 22, 2020 at 07:10 AM

This weekend I am struggling again

I'm sure part of it is PMS hormones affecting my mood. Everything just seems bleak

There's now talk that the lockdown will last into december and we shouldn't count on large holiday gatherings. Which of course I already wasn't counting on, but I fear it's making the covidiots come out even more :/

I got very pissed off with 2 teenagers behind me in line keeping no distance at all, but I was not brave enough to say anything. I don't understand why it is so difficult for some people to not breathe down someone's neck in a queue?

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rechu Magnate Member Since Apr 2016 Location: Somewhere in South America Posts: 2,239 8 1,045 hugs given	Nov 09, 2020 at 05:07 PM #465 I'm glad this lockdown seems to be going better for you. My municipality is still holding steady in phase 3. Fingers crossed!

Deilla Legendary Wise Elder Member Since Oct 2017 Location: Limsa Lominsa Posts: 29,401 (SuperPoster!) 6 49.2k hugs given	Nov 11, 2020 at 01:38 PM #468 I need some medical appointments. But I won't make them right now. Our officials are saying that these are 'dark days'. I have one next week that I may reschedule. Or maybe I should go now before things get worse. __________________ ‘Live for now,’ ‘This too shall pass,’ ‘Everything is happening for my good.’

AzulOscuro Grand Magnate Member Since Nov 2014 Location: Spain ( the land of flowers and gladness, lol!) Posts: 3,825 9 1,758 hugs given	Nov 11, 2020 at 01:52 PM #470 Well, so let’s leave others take the risk. It’s always the same story. I love this “brotherhood” __________________ Social Anxiety and Depression. Cluster C traits. Trying to improve my English. My apologies for errors and mistakes in advance. Mankind is complex: Make deserts blossom and lakes die. ( GIL SCOTT-HERSON)

AzulOscuro Grand Magnate Member Since Nov 2014 Location: Spain ( the land of flowers and gladness, lol!) Posts: 3,825 9 1,758 hugs given	Nov 13, 2020 at 01:39 PM #473 Here, the same if I have to put the vaccine to avoid higher risks for the population, I put it. __________________ Social Anxiety and Depression. Cluster C traits. Trying to improve my English. My apologies for errors and mistakes in advance. Mankind is complex: Make deserts blossom and lakes die. ( GIL SCOTT-HERSON)

BreakForTheLight Grand Member Member Since Jan 2015 Location: Europe Posts: 852 9 211 hugs given	Nov 14, 2020 at 11:53 AM #475 Even if it had been a year - it has been less than that by the time they are planning on starting vaccination. Germany is already setting up a strategy to start. I've just seen the H1N1 vaccine been brought up several times that was linked to a rise in narcolepsy cases.... even if it's rare, it makes me a little nervous.

TishaBuv Legendary Member Since Dec 2014 Location: USA Posts: 10,258 (SuperPoster!) 9 1,879 hugs given	Nov 16, 2020 at 11:44 AM #478 I just had groceries delivered for the first time out of more fear about corona now. I haven’t been wiping down the groceries. Do I really need to start doing that? We’ve just been washing out hands with soap. Ugh! __________________ "And don't say it hasn't been a little slice of heaven, 'cause it hasn't!" . About Me--T