How are you all dealing with coronavirus and the restrictions... #2

Yes, I’m astonished about the amount of people in some soccer fields. For example, in Hungary. I’m not sure but I guess they were asked a test or something. I can’t either understand it.

Btw, it was a pity what happened today. Your team had a very bad day but they are very good.
You do as I’m gonna do. Choose another team to go with.
For example, tomorrow when we get kicked out, I already chose a second team, Italy. lol!

Test is not a 100% guarantee though. Infections still happened after test events where everyone also had to have a negative test result. At least more people have been vaccinated now.

Go red devils! my second team. Looking good so far, I kind of expected them to lose tonight.

Nice surprise from Czech Republic! It amazes me to see so many people, often without masks, in the stadiums too.

Well the plot thickens as far as the Delta variant woman. The Health Ministry finally admitted that the woman had spent only one day in an isolation hotel and then she was allowed to leave after a negative test due to "Christian humanitarian" reasons since she came to the country because her father died. Seriously? It's not like she was any less contagious because her dad passed away. They then lied and said she didn't go to the funeral. A family member came forward to refute that and indicated that she had also attended a wake at a restaurant. and gone to several stores. It seems that no one can find proof of the existence of a humanitarian exemption from quarantines.

As you can imagine, this is a huge scandal. If the Health Ministry lied about this, what else have they lied about. Can we trust the case numbers? Have other people coming into the country been allowed to avoid isolating and it wasn't found out? Maybe this will finally be the last nail in the coffin of this criminal government. How can the Health Ministry leadership act with any authority after blatantly lying?


If we can trust the numbers, active cases are at a comparatively low point. However, that is not going to last. 24 more municipalities in my region are leaving lockdown on Tuesday. Add that to the Delta variant, which that woman has been spreading around in the Maule region, and I am sure cases are going to ramp right up again.

Yes, it’s truth what you say about the tests. As long as people who travel aren’t vaccinated and even in this case, at least until we get herd immunity, it will always be a danger to break safety measures.

I didn’t discard red devils at all. Not with this goalkeeper. lol!

Don’t be bad and don’t put the finger in the wound! I recall you that Chile is so far only third in the Soccer American cup. lol!

@rechu, the thing happening with this woman is pretty incompetent. How many people couldn’t see their deceased relatives to avoid contagions along the pandemia? Countless.
If this kind of incompetence wouldn’t have happened also at the beginning of the pandemia, I had thought the virus already effected our heads but, nah, we are made like that by default. lol!

I also wanna rant a little. The mask alone is not a guarantee to avoid contagions. They reduce the possibilities of you transmitting the virus. Am I right?
If I’m wrong, I undo what I’m gonna say.
I have been all kinds of politicians in a crowd celebrating different things that has to do with Politics here and that is not relevant for what I’m gonna say. I have just seen them hugging among them, hugging with the public.
But, the problem is the youth. It’s being putting all the blame on them now. Isn’t it a paradox?
Am I right? Or am I taking it to an extreme? I mean, am I wrong?

@AzulOscuro - That has been one of the main reactions to the news about this woman. Many people who could not visit dying loved ones in the hospital or who could not attend funerals are saying on social media and comments to news articles, "why was this woman exempted from the restrictions that the rest of us have to follow?"

I am wondering if someone is going to figure out who she is, maybe an investigative journalist. San Javier is a small town. Her dad died of Covid. By looking at obituaries, it could probably narrowed down quite a lot.

Haha, the Chilean national team is pathetic to be honest. A lot of guys have been around since before the 2010 World Cup and think they run the show. Many good coaches don't want to work with them because they know they are problematic. Word gets around. A coach quits and then we have to accept anyone who will take them.


They were free from the last date of the group stage of the Copa America. because there are five teams so each one gets one off date. The team came back here yesterday to prepare for the next round. Supposedly there is a list of requirements they have to meet due to COVID. How long is it until one of them is busted for not following the protocols? You just know it's going to happen. My money is on Arturo Vidal.

And just for a laugh:
https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick/st...23539305238532

The Chinese Ambassador here issued a press release in favor of the Chinese vaccines. One of his points was that 65% of the vaccines used in Latin America are Sinovac. I guess his point is that at least they are shipping more vaccines than the US or Europe. But, as far as promoting their vaccines, saying that when Latin America is the epicenter of the pandemic right now is probably not too bright.

I'm feeling worried about the rise in cases, it's over 22,000 today and seems to be rising exponentially again.

The experts aren't sure why. It could be Delta variant (much more transmissible) or relaxation of guidelines and people dropping their guard. Also waning immunity from previous infection and vaccination was mentioned but not in detail.

I'm trying to stop my worries bounding out of control, the death rate is not high so far although hospitalizations are up.

We also have a new health minister (last one resigned for breaking social distancing while having an affair with a colleague, you couldn't make it up) and he's adamant all restrictions will be removed on the 19th July.

I'm actually very distrustful of this government and very worried about what will happen next. I don't want any more full miserable lockdowns but I don't want this virus to rage unbounded either. I can't see there's going to be a happy ending.

I read about your Health Minister @Discombobulated. Here our President went to the funeral of his uncle, who died of COVID. There were more people than allowed and they opened the coffin, which is also not permitted. He also took maskless selfies with the 3 people that still support him. I think he had to pay a fine for that one. As always, with the powerful, it's do as I say, not as I do.


If you believe the numbers, we are seeing some progress. However, there was another long weekend with people traveling. That always leads to a later spike. And, they announced the easing of restrictions in another 8 municipalities (not mine) as of Thursday. Again, "pandemic fatigue" was cited for most of them. The quarantine restrictions are never very useful, but numbers do tend to go up once they are released.

Between all that and Delta, I am feeling like you. Really concerned about what is to come. Who knows how many woman the first Delta woman infected and now they have detected a second case in a recent arrival. They say he and others from the flight that tested positive are in isolation. I guess the other samples have yet to be sequenced to see if they are Delta too. But, that was the original story the last time and it was a lie.


At least they are talking about better vaccines and a third dose for Sinovac recipients, but those new contracts need to be finalized and the vaccines need to arrive. It probably will be a few months until it becomes reality and we are in winter. I just read that the Dominican Republic is also analyzing another dose for Sinovac recipients. That is the main vaccine being used there too.

@AzulOscuro - In the end it was an exciting game and your team won! Neither France nor Germany won, so I guess I will keep supporting Czech Republic.

Chile plays Brazil on Friday, so we are pretty much eliminated. Brazil is playing like the team you want to see. Not, for example, like that train wreck they were in the 2014 World Cup. They haven't lost a game and have just one tie with Ecuador.

Well, lockdown here continues. We are only one of 10 out of 52 municipalities in our region that will still be locked down as of Thurdsay. At least I tried this app that became recently available here, where someone goes and shops for you and brings you your order in a few hours. It's for the best supermarket here and we don't like going there in person these days. There is a constant line to get in due to capacity restrictions. They have better product variety than other places in town. Anyways, it worked perfectly. I am glad to have another option for online grocery delivery during this time.

Oh gosh it's getting to me these days. I just feel so tired and worn down - I haven't had anything reassembling a holiday in almost 2 years.

I have time off in a few weeks but my h doesn't want to go anywhere. We used to do a few city breaks a year, nothing fancy but we'd get a nice hotel and treat ourselves to meals out, museum visits etc.

I thought we might go away now we're both double vaccinated but he doesn't want to, doesn't feel safe. So another summer is going to pass by with no change of scene. I feel so depressed and while I want to hope this will get better I'm not sure about that.

L.M.A.O! El pibe (the buddy) doesn’t seem to feel very well after receiving Sinovac.
Sometimes, it’s needed and sane to take what happens and what it’s out of our hands with humor. It’s a quite healthy way to take things. Latin American countries’ populations usually do this very well.
And it doesn’t mean they don’t care, it means they had enough and they show a big capacity of resilience.

@rechu, did your husband received Sinovac or Pfizer?

At least, in the UK, people in charge take responsibility of their acts and resign. This is something unknown here. lol!
@Discombobulated, anyway, this is coming to an end. You will see.
Here, the numbers of contagions are rising the last three days. I guess it’s something to expect until the younger people get their vaccines.
Still, there’s a way to walk because this is a world crisis but you will see, we are gonna overcome this. And I hope, we have learnt.

Yes, the match was exciting,. Indeed, too much! lol!
So, Break goes with the Red Devils, you with the Czech Republic, Discombobulated, guess. she goes with England and I go with Spain ( wave red). Let’s see what happens.

What you described about Chilean team is something that happens. A good coach with personality and the choice to choose players without a big Ego is the key in these cases.

Ego is so dangerous for everything.
Look at the examples, all the bull$hit that has been said in relation to the Pandemia by Presidents if nations and their @ss kisses. This is our first problem.

I’m sorry a lot. I guess your husband is worried about the Delta variant, isn’t he?

@AzulOscuro - I like Spain too. After all I did live there. But I am partly of Czech ancestry and they have never won. There are lots of new candidates in the group of remaining teams. It should be interesting.


My husband got Sinocrap, unfortunately. He qualified in February because he works for the government and deals with people. The idea was to get people back into the office. The limited Pfizer doses were all going to health workers or highest risk people like those undergoing cancer treatment. He went when he qualified because he wanted at least some protection. In the end, he is still working from home with no return to the office date set.

If he had gone based on his age, without priority due to his job, he would have received Pfizer. That was the day I went and everyone got Pfizer. As they say, hindsight is 20/20. He had no way to know that we would start getting more Pfizer. Now a spokesperson from Sinovac says their vaccine's protection against Delta is 1/3 of its usual effectiveness. Just great!

Poor Pibe, what did Sinovac do to him? Something does not look right, haha! Sometimes it's either laughing or crying, so it's better to laugh.

I agree that at least the Minister in the UK resigned. After recent events, the top level Health Ministry officials all need to go, but they don't.

Former President Bachelet's mother died last year while she was in the US working for the UN. She came back to visit family but did not attend the funeral because of having to complete quarantine first. She has even commented about the woman that was given an exception, saying that even she knew she had to follow the rules, regardless of who she was. No special treatment. Why did they give this mystery woman an exemption?

@Discombobulated - Yeah, The being cooped up and not being able to travel is really wearing on me lately. Every day is the same and it is hard to take. We were very fortunate that we were able to take a short 4-day break in February 2020 to one of our favorite places about 350 km to the south. A friend came to pet sit at our house. I am eternally grateful she could do that considering that is the last time we could travel.


We used to travel a lot but cut back in 2017-2018 because we were finishing up saving for the house. We did some short trips but nothing like usual. 2019 as all about moving and getting settled into our home. We were looking to get back into more travel in 2020 but, of course we all know what happened. We took a week off recently but were locked down.

I feel like my husband is going to be much more concerned about COVID than me for a while because of the vaccine he got. If things open up, he will still want to be super cautious. And, he hasn't even seen the news about Sinovac and the Delta variant. I can't say I really blame him. I had my reasons for not wanting Sinovac and the news lately is proving me right. I would not feel protected either. It sucks.

I understand your concern.
We both, my partner and me got Sinovac, only that I’m still for receiving the second shot.
Is your husband already working with the population or he’s still working from home?
We have all such a problem, aren’t we? I’m gonna take my safety measures for a long time. I understand that for younger people is harder and for people who are more sociable and outgoing, but I don’t have this problem. And there are many people who are going to respect safety measures for a time, no matter if the authorities relaxed the measures. As we don’t trust them. lol!

Hey, it’s not needed you go with the next European Champion. lol! Each one goes with the team who has in his/her heart.
It’s said Americans, I mean...people from the States are not very fan of soccer but I see your Chilean guy put you into it.

I wonder what about if the vaccines that are supposed to go to people in the States who doesn’t want the vaccine, go to other people in other countries who can’t get a vaccine so far? Only a reflexion.
The thing is that being at the top, we sometimes lose perspective of how other countries have to fave to the same problems without the same means. The same I say for the UK, but in a different sense. I would ask them to go down their throne.
I guess Delta variant went there to give them a touch. Hope the lesson got learnt.

Noone is at the top of everything.

Still think that as (many other things) this is a virus transmitted by the rich and that is gonna be paid by the poor.

*hugs* that is really hard. Could you not get outside to nature somewhere? Drive up, get a little cottage, no contact with anyone... it'd be totally safe? Maybe not the same as a city trip but at least it's a change of scenery.

I'm also desperate for a holiday. I haven't even had any time off in months because I couldn't deal with just sitting at home and not having the distraction from work. But it's getting really hard now, I'm getting so annoyed with my job. Haven't slept well in probably almost 6 monts. My holiday will just be going to my home town, same as last year. But at least I'll be out of the city for a bit.