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Old 11-24-2021, 07:07 PM   #541
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Friends remind me that the human race actually is becoming more enlightened---but you wouldn't know it by people's behaviour, lately.
No you wouldnít with the way immature people are lashing out at people just doing their jobs, wait staff, airline staff and other workers is beyond belief!
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Most of my trouble with Covid/ vaccination news revolves around strong resistance to common sense advice. I suffer from a strong urge to grab people and shake them hard. I get very alarmed by the numbers of people WHO SHOULD JUST PLAIN OLD KNOW BETTER, who refuse to either mask-up, or get vaccinated. (Of course, I make exceptions for folks who have valid medical reasons for not doing so. ) I reserve my angry angst for the inconsiderate, politically-motivated refusers.

Friends remind me that the human race actually is becoming more enlightened---but you wouldn't know it by people's behaviour, lately.
I completely agree with you - and I live in Idaho, where 99% of my neighbors are unvaccinated and unmasked. That is why I have to pay extra money for N95 masks or better, and why I also wear goggles, double gloves (disposable under cheap cloth gloves from Target), a KN95 mask over my N95 mask, and clothing from head to toe - even covering my ears. I look "crazy," but at least I've not had to pay for exorbitant medical copays that everyone else around here has to pay because of their continued negligence and utter disdain for the disabled and the elderly.

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Anyway, if this is not allowed, I put it inside a Trigger warning thingy. It can be deleted. I just don't know what is allowed to express, because religion has infiltrated politics and this pandemic and our overall mental health related to all of it.
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So I was super prepared for my trip to the UK, filled in all the necessary forms and paid for a test I didn't get to take.

Then almost forgot to check anything for my trip back filled in a passenger locator for Belgium late in the evening after the gig. Good thing I did because Belgium actually checked them upon arrival, unlike the UK. (Although train staff checked on both sides on check-in).
Forgot to take the test which is required for entry into the Netherlands ssst, don't tell anyone
I'm no longer in the country! absolutely pointless anyway. I could've taken a PCR test 48 hours before departing the UK. 48 hours before departing the UK, I was still in the Netherlands

Then another form to fill in when returning to Germany. It's such a hassle! IF I got infected with corona anywhere, it most likely happened on a German train Once upon a time, they recuced the ticket capacity to reduce risk. Now they're selling as many tickets as possible again. Masks are still required but I did feel uncomfortable sitting next to a stranger who was constantly sighing and sniffling for 4,5 hours.
I actually originally had a reservation on a fairly quiet train with a free seat next to me (and right next to the luggage storage so I wouldn't have to lift my heavy suitcase into the overhead luggage rack!) But then my train got cancelled, I missed my connecting train and had to buy a new seat

I have an on site job interview tomorrow and they did request I take a test before, which I was planning on anyway. But I am a tiny bit nervous that it might turn out positive so fingers crossed, please! No symptoms or any reason to be nervous other than my anxiety.
@BreakForTheLight - Good luck on your test and the job interview! I hope the test is negative, and I hope your job interview is positive!

I miss traveling, but I could never have enough energy to trave these days, especially with what you went through. Yikes!
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Well my dad was worried about me so I went ahead and booked my 3rd the week before Christmas, fingers crossed I donít get a nasty reaction.

I just read that AZ antibodies fade around 5-6 months like Pfizer but AZ are claiming the T-cell response is higher and remains, if so thatís good news and would support mixing vaccines.
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Well my dad was worried about me so I went ahead and booked my 3rd the week before Christmas, fingers crossed I donít get a nasty reaction.

I just read that AZ antibodies fade around 5-6 months like Pfizer but AZ are claiming the T-cell response is higher and remains, if so thatís good news and would support mixing vaccines.
They don't allow AZ here in the U.S., but I've had Moderna for 3 full shots. So far, so good. But I also remain isolated, double-masked, sometimes goggled, usually fully clothed from head to toe, and double-gloved (disposable under cloth). I also spend time showering and doing other rituals after any potential exposure. So I act as though I'm fighting off the plague. I just can't afford to be an undiagnosed autoimmune case, since my nephew had a really bad breakthrough case of Covid-19, despite being fully vaccinated a month past his second jab. He said it was his autoimmune disorder, which runs in our family. So I freak out a little.

But I trust the vaccines. I just wished that they would stop competing and just create one vaccine for most, and then focus on finding the right ones for the severe risk populations (including increasing proper screening and diagnoses for them, too).

Lupus, GI problems, cancer, and prediabetes (not full diabetes) runs in our family, and so does obesity with 25% of my family. It's mostly my father's side (he's European American and no longer alive). My Japanese mother's side of the family seems to deal mostly with heart disease (not from obesity, but other factors), osteoporosis, etc. I lost a few of my mom's relatives to either heart disease or from things like one of them not being vaccinated with that one shot when you stub your toe. He died from something completely preventable. Another one died of a heart attack, but she suffered from alcoholism. None of my family have CFS/ME, which I have. But I do have thyroid issues and some blood abnormalities.

Sorry, I kind of went off on a tangent here.

It's great to see how other countries are dealing with this pandemic. I'm right there with you all in the good fight. I just tend to go overboard a little (or maybe a lot).
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I wished that they would just recommend boosters for everyone every 5 months, so that we are fully covered with no gaps in between the waning. I also wish there were a way to eradicate this once and for all somehow. I really wanted this pandemic to be over by now.
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@Discombobulated I was worried about the same thing getting my 3rd just before a holiday! I am relieved it worked out well and hope you have good results also! I guess there's no way to predict how 'bad' our reactions will be each time - it just seems to vary so much for everyone.


I had a new experience the other day - I went to a packed restaurant with tables so close together I struggled to get into my seat. No staff wearing masks, which actually seems more fair since none of the customers are. It was like the old days. I felt brief bursts of anxiety rather than paranoid the whole time I was there.
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Well my dad was worried about me so I went ahead and booked my 3rd the week before Christmas, fingers crossed I donít get a nasty reaction.

I just read that AZ antibodies fade around 5-6 months like Pfizer but AZ are claiming the T-cell response is higher and remains, if so thatís good news and would support mixing vaccines.
I think it's wise to get it as soon as possible especially when you are exposed to so many people every day.

I was worried about getting the booster as well. I was shivering the night after & the next day after getting Pfizer, but we also had a broken heating so not sure if it was the shot or just getting used to the cold. And I had quite a bad headache the first day. 2 days after I was fine.

Germany and the Netherlands might be heading for another lockdown :/ for NL I can understand, but German still has a lot of restrictions currently. That are now getting even stricter. Is everything so far been completely pointless?
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They don't allow AZ here in the U.S., but I've had Moderna for 3 full shots. So far, so good. But I also remain isolated, double-masked, sometimes goggled, usually fully clothed from head to toe, and double-gloved (disposable under cloth). I also spend time showering and doing other rituals after any potential exposure. So I act as though I'm fighting off the plague. I just can't afford to be an undiagnosed autoimmune case, since my nephew had a really bad breakthrough case of Covid-19, despite being fully vaccinated a month past his second jab. He said it was his autoimmune disorder, which runs in our family. So I freak out a little.

But I trust the vaccines. I just wished that they would stop competing and just create one vaccine for most, and then focus on finding the right ones for the severe risk populations (including increasing proper screening and diagnoses for them, too).

Lupus, GI problems, cancer, and prediabetes (not full diabetes) runs in our family, and so does obesity with 25% of my family. It's mostly my father's side (he's European American and no longer alive). My Japanese mother's side of the family seems to deal mostly with heart disease (not from obesity, but other factors), osteoporosis, etc. I lost a few of my mom's relatives to either heart disease or from things like one of them not being vaccinated with that one shot when you stub your toe. He died from something completely preventable. Another one died of a heart attack, but she suffered from alcoholism. None of my family have CFS/ME, which I have. But I do have thyroid issues and some blood abnormalities.

Sorry, I kind of went off on a tangent here.

It's great to see how other countries are dealing with this pandemic. I'm right there with you all in the good fight. I just tend to go overboard a little (or maybe a lot).
Yes I find it very interesting to read other countries reactions too, this thread has been more enlightening than many news reports for that reason - weíre all ordinary people on the ground.

Does the US have J&J? Because that is similar to the AZ I believe in that it uses the adenovirus so also has T cell response. Also I think the Russian and Chinese vaccines do too.

I really understand your caution, especially if you feel others around arenít taking care. My niece had a nasty dose of covid too despite 2x vaccination. Yet before vaccinations were available my friendís elderly father with several pre existing serious conditions had covid with no symptomsÖ. Itís quite perplexing.
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Yes I find it very interesting to read other countries reactions too, this thread has been more enlightening than many news reports for that reason - weíre all ordinary people on the ground.

Does the US have J&J? Because that is similar to the AZ I believe in that it uses the adenovirus so also has T cell response. Also I think the Russian and Chinese vaccines do too.

I really understand your caution, especially if you feel others around arenít taking care. My niece had a nasty dose of covid too despite 2x vaccination. Yet before vaccinations were available my friendís elderly father with several pre existing serious conditions had covid with no symptomsÖ. Itís quite perplexing.
Thank you @Discombobulated. BTW, not sure if you celebrate Thanksgiving in your country, but if you do, Happy Thanksgiving!

The US does have J&J, but it is not as affective as the others. In fact, the suggestions for boosters for a few months now have been for J&J recipients to get the mRNA vaccine - either the Pfizer full dose or the Moderna 1/2 dose booster. Some, like my friend, who received the one-shot J&J vaccine decided to "start all over" and receive the Pfizer first and second doses, almost pretending that he was "never vaccinated" (even though he was). He did fine with that, and he's in his late-50s with a few underlying conditions. He is a trainer at the gym, so he's survived Chicago living at the gym this entire time with one mask. Here I am afraid to go anywhere, and I wear a double-mask whenever I do.

For those who are immunocompromised, they've been able to get the full Moderna "booster" (though they don't call it that for the Moderna 2nd shot for J&J or 3rd shot for either Moderna or Pfizer two-series shots; they just simply call it the 3rd jab or 3rd shot in the series or something to that effect). They (the government, including the CDC and FDA here, like to keep us confused, it seems, LOL
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