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Old 04-13-2022, 03:15 PM   #881
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Thank you, Azul and Disco! Sorry for not responding, I'm still a bit of a mess, half the time I don't even know what I'm feeling or how I'm doing but I appreciate both of your posts!

I've got my first totally maskless, free standing concert tomorrow and I have to admit I'm a litte nervous. The one in Belgium that was rule-free was seated so not quite the same as in a club.

I have to say I am pleasantly surprised to see most people still wearing their masks in the store here, even though it's no longer required. Though when I went to a different store 15 mins away on Saturday, there were a lot more maskless people.

Numbers seem to be going down here.... but then there's no test requirements anymore so who knows what the real numbers are.
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I will be curious to hear how the concert goes. I went to my first maskless concert recently. People kept their distance and I could overhear others talking about how it was the first time they'd been to a show since Covid and how they felt a little nervous. More people hanging around the back than usual. The place was also empty until the last minute and now I wonder if that was because people wanted to stay outside of the building for as long as possible whereas before you might go early to hang out with friends? I felt more nervous on the bus than in the big concert venue. The show was in a much larger venue than it normally would be and I was glad for that.


I also wonder where we go from here. A lot of the social activities I used to do are still virtual or canceled. Nonprofits I volunteer with kept the work and cut out the fun. Where can you meet people if they aren't congregating? Also, some of my friends are saying that they love the Covid hermit life and don't plan on going back to the old ways! What if the kinds of people I tend to like never come back out??


We are leaving today for our first vacation in three years. I am pretty excited. I had plans to visit family I haven't seen in years but they just caught Covid
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Iím really interested to hear about your experiences at concerts @hvert and @BreakForTheLight especially as Iím going to my first venue in over 2 years next week. It will be seated however but thereís no distancing or face coverings required.

Thatís interesting about people not mixing as freely as before around the venue.

Also a good observation hvert, what if the kind of people you like donít come back out. I too wonder about people whoíve chosen to isolate being missed in the whole balance of society.

I feel like the narrative here in England is heavily political and thereís no space for the thoughts and nuances you describe, we seem to have become very one track. Thereís much more than just the pandemic at play here of course. I know Iím not supposed to get political here but the fact is my own state of mind is very much affected by the political situation, I wonít write too much more but how many countries are being lead by leaders who broke their own lockdown rules and have been fined by the police? Itís incredible.

Iíve said it before but you people here have helped keep me sane these last few years, youíre all intelligent, and balanced with your thoughts and how you write them. Thanks.
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Iím really interested to hear about your experiences at concerts @hvert and @BreakForTheLight especially as Iím going to my first venue in over 2 years next week. It will be seated however but thereís no distancing or face coverings required.

Thatís interesting about people not mixing as freely as before around the venue.
Ahum. Well if your event is seated, it won't be anything like mine at all

I can't say anything about before the concert as I have the worst time management and only got to the venue when the support act had already started.

As to the concert itself..... keep in mind I live in pretty much party central of Germany and the gig was pretty loud. And wild. There was NO distancing at all. Like, NONE. Like strangers jumping and dancing into you. I have to admit I ended up a good few metres further to the front than where I started as well

But guys..... I had the bestest time ever!!! I have not felt so alive in 2 years. I honesty didn't even think I would enjoy the concert that much because it wasn't one of the musicians I usually listen to (first time seeing this guy live). And I think two years ago, this would have actually been my worst nightmare. Zero personal space, I HATE gigs like that - even before Corona. And then to be there while we're still in a pandemic???
But it was amazing. It's so weird, even to me! I guess I needed to catch up on being around other people after two years???
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I woke up this morning with a warning from my Corona app for high risk encounters on no less than 4 days most recent one on the 13th. At least not on the day of the concert, I thought! That was the only place where I didn't wear a mask inside.

Then as I got back from picking up the tests I'd ordered from Amazon, I got another warning. High risk encounter on the 14th aka the day of the concert. Sigh. I'm feeling a little bit under the weather but nothing serious. Did a test right away, it's still got a few minutes processing time left but so far not even the faintest line.

And as I was typing, the timer for the test went off. Negative although to be honest, if this were covid, I'd be glad to get it over with, with such minimal symptoms So either it's a cold, or PMS, or Covid but the viral load is too low for the at home test. Will try to get one done at a test center before I go to visit my parents this weekend.
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I woke up this morning with a warning from my Corona app for high risk encounters on no less than 4 days most recent one on the 13th. At least not on the day of the concert, I thought! That was the only place where I didn't wear a mask inside.

Then as I got back from picking up the tests I'd ordered from Amazon, I got another warning. High risk encounter on the 14th aka the day of the concert. Sigh. I'm feeling a little bit under the weather but nothing serious. Did a test right away, it's still got a few minutes processing time left but so far not even the faintest line.

And as I was typing, the timer for the test went off. Negative although to be honest, if this were covid, I'd be glad to get it over with, with such minimal symptoms So either it's a cold, or PMS, or Covid but the viral load is too low for the at home test. Will try to get one done at a test center before I go to visit my parents this weekend.
A coworker of my partner is positive. Crossing fingers that we donít get pest.

Let me tell you that you travel more than Willy Ford 😂.

Hope you get better soon and Iím crossing my fingers for you to be negative and can go to visit your parents.
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Inside masks arenít be obligatory anymore here in Spain. But, Iím gonna go on using it, only that I have to choose another type of mask.
Until now, I have been wearing a mask who protect others, an others use a mask who is supposed to protect me. Now, I have to change the mask, since maybe others are not gonna wear a mask, Iím not be protected so I will have to use a mask who protects myself.
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I was going to post a separate thread on this but then I thought actually it fits right here.

Iím not particularly concerned about covid anymore, thatís not to say I think itís no longer a threat, just that I personally have had it and was okay.

But I am really aware of how the last 2 years have affected my mental health. Specifically my anxiety and social anxiety issues. Over the last 10 years I made great strides with my social anxiety, I mixed with more people, I did a whole host of different activities. Slowly I did improve- okay not the life and soul of the party but every day functioning good.

Now I feel uneasy about socialising. Not terrified but uneasy. I have not been for an evening out in over 2 years. Tomorrow night me and my h are going out, a low key musical event, then afterwards I booked a nearby hotel. I want to do it - thatís why I booked it but I feel uneasy. I wish I could just let go and have fun.
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Well I did just let go (sort of!) and had fun. This gig was a sellout so the venue was packed, that felt very strange and yet itís something we used to do all the time. My nerves settled a lot, because I was absorbed by the performance, and the band are friends of my h so it felt personal. It was good, and h enjoyed himself which was really good to see, he saw a few different friends too.

It brought home to us how socially disconnected weíve been. Iím not advocating our choice as the right one BTW but on balance itís the right one for us I think. I do think mentally weíve both suffered through no proper social stuff.

Iíve got to confess I was randomly hugged by more people than I wouldíve liked, I guess those people are hugging again and hadnít considered others might not. So far Iíve only hugged a very small number of non family. Iím cautious with my hugs - this was like a hug fest! Whatís the answer short of batting people away? A T-shirt with ĎNo hugs pleaseí on? Iíll be rapid testing on Monday before I volunteer anyhow.

Anyhow the good thing is the anxiety settled and I think I do need to push myself a little more socially than I have been.
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Glad to hear you had fun, Disco!

Here we go again I've been feeling under the weather *again* since last night, this afternoon another warning popped up in the app. High risk encounter on Saturday. Just when all the previous warnings had gone, I get a new one test came out negative though. It must've been on the train, where everyone was (hopefully) wearing a mask.
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I was going to post a separate thread on this but then I thought actually it fits right here.

Iím not particularly concerned about covid anymore, thatís not to say I think itís no longer a threat, just that I personally have had it and was okay.

But I am really aware of how the last 2 years have affected my mental health. Specifically my anxiety and social anxiety issues. Over the last 10 years I made great strides with my social anxiety, I mixed with more people, I did a whole host of different activities. Slowly I did improve- okay not the life and soul of the party but every day functioning good.

Now I feel uneasy about socialising. Not terrified but uneasy. I have not been for an evening out in over 2 years. Tomorrow night me and my h are going out, a low key musical event, then afterwards I booked a nearby hotel. I want to do it - thatís why I booked it but I feel uneasy. I wish I could just let go and have fun.
This is totally understandable. For people who already gave some steps forward to combat their social anxiety, all this time was a nail in the coffin.

Indeed, the rest of the population also have been effected by the isolation in terms of depressions and other issues.

On one side I made the thread here, in anxiety forum because I thought people with SA like you or me, wonít have any problem with being isolated. It may be kind of relief. And I would doubt that we were have many risks of being infected or infect others but I forgot about SA people who are trying to battle this illness. @BreakForTheLight, made me consider with one of her posts here about that possibility.

Iím very happy you got to have some fun. 😘
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This is totally understandable. For people who already gave some steps forward to combat their social anxiety, all this time was a nail in the coffin.

Indeed, the rest of the population also have been effected by the isolation in terms of depressions and other issues.

On one side I made the thread here, in anxiety forum because I thought people with SA like you or me, wonít have any problem with being isolated. It may be kind of relief. And I would doubt that we were have many risks of being infected or infect others but I forgot about SA people who are trying to battle this illness. @BreakForTheLight, made me consider with one of her posts here about that possibility.

Iím very happy you got to have some fun. 😘
We all need some sort of balance. I have noticed my anxiety has gone WAY down since working from home. I feel like I was in a constant state of being overstimulated before, working in very crowded, noisy open plan offices and travelling on busy public transport. I was always stressed out, even though my job was not stressful in itself.

But lockdown was the other extreme of the scale. We're still human and need some human contact. Besides that, it was forced upon us. There's a difference between being forced to be alone and chosing to take some time alone. Especially for people living alone - not even having a partner or housemate to share anything with has been incredibly tough.

I am half dead physically after another concert on Wednesday night, getting home (to my parents' place) late (the gig was a 2,5 hour drive away) and then a very early morning and a 7 hour journey back home, but mentally I finally feel ALIVE again. Even the train journey, just looking out of the window at the sunny landscape felt good after seeing not much more than my tiny flat for 2 years.

(I did another test before going to the concert, and my "symptoms" were already gone by then, they didn't even last 24 hours.)
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I finally got around to going to the dentist. Honestly, I was overdue pre-covid. Fortunately, I didn't have any issues except some plaque, so I all I needed was a cleaning.
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I swear we are under a Covid dictatorship here. They just announced that if you got the 3rd vaccine 6 months or more ago they will annul your mobility pass (like a vaccine passport) if you do not go for a 4th dose. I am coming up on 6 months in the last week of May.

Personally, I am not convinced that a 4th dose is necessary in my case. It seems like most countries are only doing it for higher-risk people. 4 doses in a year seems like a lot and there are some studies coming out saying healthy adults don't get much benefit from it.


In theory, it's mainly for stadiums, theater, indoor dining, so it wouldn't limit me that much. However, I read today that some other businesses like banks are making you show it. Also, with this government, who knows if they might make it mandatory in more places in the future to twist our arms? In the end, we all know that the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission, which makes the whole idea of the pass questionable.

My husband got his 4th, but he initially got 2 doses of Sinovac. Now he is bugging me to go get it. I have had 3 of Pfizer. I hear they are giving Moderna now. I felt like complete crap for 2 days post vaccine all times before. I am not in the mood to go through that again when work and house projects have me extremely busy.

They haven't scrapped the whole Covid alert phases and restrictions either. There is no quarantine, but still it's a pain. They moved our region to a more restrictive tier. Now a lot of events have to be canceled because the maximum attendance is 10,000. We must be the only country still doing that. Well, I guess it's not as bad as China, but we are theoretically a democracy even though it doesn't feel like it now.

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I swear we are under a Covid dictatorship here. They just announced that if you got the 3rd vaccine 6 months or more ago they will annul your mobility pass (like a vaccine passport) if you do not go for a 4th dose. I am coming up on 6 months in the last week of May.

Personally, I am not convinced that a 4th dose is necessary in my case. It seems like most countries are only doing it for higher-risk people. 4 doses in a year seems like a lot and there are some studies coming out saying healthy adults don't get much benefit from it.


In theory, it's mainly for stadiums, theater, indoor dining, so it wouldn't limit me that much. However, I read today that some other businesses like banks are making you show it. Also, with this government, who knows if they might make it mandatory in more places in the future to twist our arms? In the end, we all know that the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission, which makes the whole idea of the pass questionable.

My husband got his 4th, but he initially got 2 doses of Sinovac. Now he is bugging me to go get it. I have had 3 of Pfizer. I hear they are giving Moderna now. I felt like complete crap for 2 days post vaccine all times before. I am not in the mood to go through that again when work and house projects have me extremely busy.

They haven't scrapped the whole Covid alert phases and restrictions either. There is no quarantine, but still it's a pain. They moved our region to a more restrictive tier. Now a lot of events have to be canceled because the maximum attendance is 10,000. We must be the only country still doing that. Well, I guess it's not as bad as China, but we are theoretically a democracy even though it doesn't feel like it now.
I still have to show a vax card at many concerts. A couple of them make you have a 3rd dose. But it's easy enough to fill out that card yourself. We had some cops get in trouble for making fake vax cards.. They lost their jobs but I didn't hear about them being charged with a crime. I bet plenty of people have done it and not gotten caught. What is the penalty there for that?
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I live in a small country with a population of only 19 million, so vaccine data is kept in a central database and you have to get a QR code to get the vaccine passport. Paper vaccine cards are only acceptable for 75+. I guess if you have friend in the Health Ministry, you could make it look like you got another dose. Or, maybe you can pay a hacker.

I find it really irritating that the government is trying to force all adults to get a fourth vaccine when most studies are showing that it doesn't have a proven benefit for healthier non-elder adults.
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Itís what @AceRimmer says. There have been lots of restrictions and papers papers that the Governments settled as obligatory but then, the requirements are not being taking into account unless you are a famous tennis player as Djokovic. This happens because the ones who have to make decisions donít know what they are doing. And they are so dared to do whatever because they donít f. care about what we may think.
Letís see. I wonder. If I donít get the fourth shot. Would I hurt someone else apart from myself if I caught the critter? Now, that if your symptoms are not high you can walk here and there without caring.
Some measures are rosen up, some others still remain. Who is gonna put a little of reasoning here?
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I find it really irritating that the government is trying to force all adults to get a fourth vaccine when most studies are showing that it doesn't have a proven benefit for healthier non-elder adults.
If you have had covid does that count as being vaccinated? It should.
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Ha, ha, in the health dictatorship, no it does not. The first Health Minister during the pandemic proposed something like that, a sort of passport for recovered people, but it never entered into practice. Funny thing, that guy looks completely like Robert De Niro. Maybe he thought if he successfully managed the pandemic, they would make a movie about him starring Robert De Niro.
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I just donít get the whole immunity passport idea, if you can still get and transmit if youíve been vaccinated or previously had covid it makes no sense at all. It never really took off here (only very briefly and in certain high capacity venues) and think itís one of the things this government got right.

Sorry youíre going through this Rechu!

I read theyíre working on nose sprays to cut transmission, and I got invited to a trial of omicron specific Moderna- but Iím having hospital tests at the moment so canít.
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