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Well, someone showed me a useful site where you can see that yesterday the majority of first doses were Pfizer. My municipality has given out 15% Pfizer and 85% Sinovac. That's actually more Pfizer than the national average. So, I will go early and see. I think my husband is going to bug me that if they reject me just to bite the bullet and go for Sinocrap. I am exhausted by this all. I still don't know if I can bring myself to do that. If I did, as soon as you can go to a private clinic and pay to get vaccinated, I'd do that.
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Well, I win!! Haha!


I went to the Centro Cultural here today. Sinovac was reserved for second doses so I was given Pfizer - yay! It was pretty crowded. I got there at 8:30 AM and there were two lines, one for second doses and one for first. They started letting people in at 9. For the first doses, they weren't sure what was arriving but I did ask the woman at the intake desk if I could get Pfizer (due to what I explained above) and she wrote that on my ticket and said I'd be priority for that if they received Pfizer today. I sent a picture to my sister, because it was one of those numbers like they give you at a deli. She said, "are you ordering sandwich meat or getting a vaccine?" It took a while for the vaccines to arrive. It wasn't until 10:30 that they got things moving. Maybe they were being sent from Santiago. There were separate areas for Sinovac and Pfizer. For Pfizer they alternated between groups of first and second doses. I got mine at about 11:25 and they gave me a paper telling me to go to one of the waiting areas either in the theater or some couches right outside until 11:55 when I was good to go.

I'm glad that's taken care of. I am much less anxious. I have to go back on the 12th of May for #2.

Right now on TV, they are showing that some municipalities were turning people away for their doses, so I feel very lucky. Today was one of those catch up days where anyone who qualified before now but hadn't gone yet could go. So, I guess it is busier than the days where they are only doing people who are 48 years old, etc.
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Oh WOW!! I am so pleased for you @rechu and hope that you are now feeling relaxed and that any side effects will be minimal and short-lived. I am so happy you got the Pfizer!
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@BreakForTheLight thanks, glad your dad is getting his vaccination tomorrow. I bet that makes you feel a little happier.

I got my official invitation text through today and clicked on the booking link. As I guessed the centres on offer were many miles from here and none in my local authority. I'll keep checking though, many of my friends who've had theirs had the same problem and eventually somewhere local will be available, it's a waiting game.

For me this was a great day - 2 awesome things - I saw my sister for the first time in many months (lots of laughs) and I went for my first haircut in 5 months (hairdressers just opened after 3 and a half months of being shut). Both of these things have made me incredibly happy.

For all of you going through bad times, hang on in there.

I do recognise the fog you describe Break, it's like a lack of motivation, it's natural I think because of how we've been living.
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For Pfizer they alternated between groups of first and second doses. I got mine at about 11:25 and they gave me a paper telling me to go to one of the waiting areas either in the theater or some couches right outside until 11:55 when I was good to go.

I'm glad that's taken care of. I am much less anxious. I have to go back on the 12th of May for #2.
So glad you got the Pfizer one. I had my 2nd dose on March 27th. The only obvious reaction I had was my arm was sore for about 24 hours after each dose. Then I heard in the news that some people were getting itchy from both the Pfizer and Moderna shots. I have had some itchiness on my calves (not at all itchy in the morning though) but it could just be that there have been a lot of mosquitos around lately and we also have cats that come in and out of the house...
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@Discombobulated and @TunedOut Thanks. I am so glad things worked out too. Here, so far they've given out over 11 million Sinovac and 1.5 million Pfizer. With mainly Sinovac, the virus is still going to circulate until we can get more people vaccinated with the more effective vaccines. So, personally, after the research I did, I wanted the best protection for me. I'd have to look closer at the numbers, but my husband was wondering if they were holding back some Pfizer and decided to use it for the 40-60 age group (mine), which is being vaccinated now since it seems so many people are getting Pfizer as a first dose currently. Part of that is needing Sinovac for second doses, but I wonder if something else is going on. 40-60 has been seriously affected by the Brazilian variant at the moment in terms of hospitalizations.

I have some itchiness and pain at the injection site. It sucks, because I want to scratch it but then that makes it hurt more. I've had a headache since yesterday afternoon. It feels like a hangover but I didn't have anything to drink. I wonder if it's because of wearing a mask for so long. That was the longest I have gone masked and I did the double mask since the Brazilian variant is so contagious and I was going to an area with a lot of people.

Some municipalities are reporting a decline in people going to get vaccinated and almost empty vaccination centers. I went twice to the largest vaccination center in the last week and both times it was pretty busy, so I hope that means our area is doing better than others with vaccination. In combination with more Pfizer going out, if we are vaccinating at a higher rate, maybe we will start to get some traction against the virus. we did have over 300 active cases recently and now it's down to 257. The health workers handling the vaccination did a good job, I thought. It was better organized that friends in many other countries have reported. They kept us informed about the arrival of vaccines (they come from the regional health authority in Santiago and there was a delay) and explained the whole process.
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I am actually kind of amazed that in a developing country I could get a Pfizer vaccine so soon, considering I'm not in any risk groups and middle-aged. Two weeks ago, I thought it was impossible. Friends in Europe (like Spain, @AzulOscuro) are telling me they are still working on vaccinating the 65+ or 70+ age groups.

I guess at least our clown government is making progress there. Some neighboring countries like Ecuador and Paraguay don't even have enough for their health workers and we've made some vaccine donations to them. Well, we did keep the Pfizer for us, but for health workers that are on the front lines, I guess even lower protection from Sinovac is better than absolutely nothing. We've also been helping receive the vaccines that Uruguay has ordered and shipping them there. I guess because there aren't as many flights to Uruguay, the manufacturers find it easier to do it like that. Uruguay was doing so well. My good friend there was living almost a normal life, but being Brazil's neighbor caught up with them and now they have one of the worst per capita infections in the world. It sounds like they are doing pretty well vaccinating, though, which is good. My friend is a year younger than me and healthy and she got her second vaccine recently.
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Yay rechu! Well done for standing your ground and getting the Pfizer!

Over here, we've had another vaccination setback with the Janssen vaccine. From what I have read the blood clot side effect is much rarer than with AZ. But they have stopped it anyway.
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@Discombobulated and @TunedOut Thanks. I am so glad things worked out too. Here, so far they've given out over 11 million Sinovac and 1.5 million Pfizer. With mainly Sinovac, the virus is still going to circulate until we can get more people vaccinated with the more effective vaccines. So, personally, after the research I did, I wanted the best protection for me. I'd have to look closer at the numbers, but my husband was wondering if they were holding back some Pfizer and decided to use it for the 40-60 age group (mine), which is being vaccinated now since it seems so many people are getting Pfizer as a first dose currently. Part of that is needing Sinovac for second doses, but I wonder if something else is going on. 40-60 has been seriously affected by the Brazilian variant at the moment in terms of hospitalizations.

I have some itchiness and pain at the injection site. It sucks, because I want to scratch it but then that makes it hurt more. I've had a headache since yesterday afternoon. It feels like a hangover but I didn't have anything to drink. I wonder if it's because of wearing a mask for so long. That was the longest I have gone masked and I did the double mask since the Brazilian variant is so contagious and I was going to an area with a lot of people.

Some municipalities are reporting a decline in people going to get vaccinated and almost empty vaccination centers. I went twice to the largest vaccination center in the last week and both times it was pretty busy, so I hope that means our area is doing better than others with vaccination. In combination with more Pfizer going out, if we are vaccinating at a higher rate, maybe we will start to get some traction against the virus. we did have over 300 active cases recently and now it's down to 257. The health workers handling the vaccination did a good job, I thought. It was better organized that friends in many other countries have reported. They kept us informed about the arrival of vaccines (they come from the regional health authority in Santiago and there was a delay) and explained the whole process.
Hangover...Uh! This is because you were shot with the one with the whisky. lol!

I’m happy you get your vaccine.
Here, the situation is pretty absurd. We are in a developing country, but in the sense that our brains are still for evolve a lot. lol!

The problem is there have been problems to receive the vaccines and the ones we have already here, our authorities don’t want to take any risk with them. For example, with AztraZeneca, Scientific Community states that the risk to suffer a blood stroke is very low while the risk to die because of corona virus is higher. But our authorities are giving the message that the vaccine is safe but on another hand they are taking odd actions. One day, they stop giving the vaccine, other day they take the decision to give it only to people bellow 60. They are at the same time pondering the idea to give the second shot with another vaccine different to AZ.
So we have population between 79 and 60 who aren’t receiving the vaccine.
So, it’s all a nonsense.

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@AzulOscuro. I love your sense of humor!

My friend told me to check the vials closely. I did look to see what the Pfizer ones looked like online to be sure. And, yes, that's what they were using. There have been a few mixups with people getting a different vaccine for the second dose, so where I went they had a very clear separation between personnel injecting Sinovac and Pfizer.


We've seen weird things like that too about who gets what vaccine. Initially, they told health workers and people over 59 would get Pfizer. The over 59 was because there wasn't much safety information about its use in older people. The Brazil trials didn't have enough participants in that age range. Four days later, they suddenly said it was safe for people older than 59. Obviously, they did the math and realized that we didn't have enough Pfizer for that age group, because how else could they change their minds so quickly? Health workers initially got Pfizer and then they switched on them too when it ran out. Many weren't happy. Those things just cause confusion and probably vaccine reluctance.


Of course now that more Pfizer is here, it's us healthy 40- and 50-somethings that were able to take advantage. Luck of the draw. The growing shipments of Pfizer coincided with our time on the calendar.
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@rechu, and you are lot of fun beside being smart in what standing up by yourself regards.
Searching for how the vials look like to be sure they are giving you the right one. lol. Very smart.
I’m gonna follow your own steps when I got my turn for the shot that I calculate it won’t probably before the frogs develop hair in their skins. Looking at twice, and considering from a the positive point of view, by then, I will be an expert in the vaccines matter. So, these “*****es” won’t trick me.

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Ugh, the other day I read a news article which kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Some politician warning people who don't exercise that this increases their risk of a corona infection being more serious.

I know I'm being oversensitive but I would be exercising a lot more if it wasn't for the bloody lockdown you have put us in for way too long! Depression makes it really hard to get motivated to exercise. A doctor giving the same warning I could understand. But not someone who is a part of this half arsed corona prevention.
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@BreakForTheLight, yeah, I read that and thought the same. It's not right to scold people like that when there are many factors that may make it hard to exercise right now. The first lockdown here gave no allowances to be able to exercise except for a half hour dog walk and that meant you used up one of your two permits to go out for the week. After a while of that, we bought a stationary bike, but not everyone can afford to buy exercise equipment or has the space for it. Now there are special time bands where you can exercise near your house without using a permit, but they are not convenient for everyone and they are pretty early in the morning when it's cool and dark. We are having these weird days where it's about 5 C for the low and 31 for the high. The exercise bands 7-8:30 AM certain days, and 6-9 AM other days. I have to start work around 8-8:30 and before then it is the coldest time of the day and still pretty dark. There are some areas where it's not exactly even safe to be wandering around at 6-7 in the morning.


I don't always get the humor programs here, but the other night my husband was watching a skit with a guy impersonating the president that made me laugh. One part was making fun of his connection to the casinos. He was using a roulette wheel to decide what areas entered into or were moved out of lockdown. He would say, Puente Alto, should they stay in quarantine or not? If it lands on red, quarantine, if it's black they go to phase two! Honestly, it feels like they are using a roulette wheel to make decisions a lot of time.

Lockdown was renewed for the whole region. We are at four weeks today in my municipality. About two months ago, the Health Minister said they would not last more than four weeks. But, you clearly can't trust him.
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Good news for me because 3 days after I got my invite to book my vaccination via the national site (which had no venues near me) I got today another text from my GP inviting me to book at the local vaccination centre which is 20 minutes walk from here. Yay!

I have my appointment for next Friday and then my 2nd is in July. Not sure which I'll get but probably the Oxford AstraZeneca. I have the following day off work in case I feel unwell afterwards.
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Great news @Discombobulated!! My brother is in London, so he will probably get AstraZeneca coon too. He's the odd man out. My parents, sister and I all got Pfizer.
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Thanks @rechu yes it's either AstraZeneca or Moderna which is has only just started being used. Hope he gets his very soon!
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Good news, Discombulated!

The rules here are so confusing. I've just spent 10 minutes Googling to find out if I need a negative test result to be able to run all the errands I need A negative test result is required for all non essential stores. I wasn't sure about essential stores within a shopping centre but apparantly you can still go there without a negative test result. I'm just gonna take a gamble the post office also counts as essential.

There's also a rule saying companies have to offer their employees a free test twice a week - although employees don't have to use that offer, unless they have direct customer contact (I guess that means in person and I wouldn't have to get tested before e-mailing a customer ). My employer has not offered us any testing. But we're working from home, why would it be my employer's responsibility to offer me a test when I don't come into contact with anyone during working hours (and don't have a commute to the office)?
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The rules here are so confusing. I've just spent 10 minutes Googling to find out if I need a negative test result to be able to run all the errands I need A negative test result is required for all non essential stores. I wasn't sure about essential stores within a shopping centre but apparantly you can still go there without a negative test result. I'm just gonna take a gamble the post office also counts as essential.

There's also a rule saying companies have to offer their employees a free test twice a week - although employees don't have to use that offer, unless they have direct customer contact (I guess that means in person and I wouldn't have to get tested before e-mailing a customer ). My employer has not offered us any testing. But we're working from home, why would it be my employer's responsibility to offer me a test when I don't come into contact with anyone during working hours (and don't have a commute to the office)?
Yes lateral flow tests have really been pushed here too recently, everyone is entitled to 2 free ones per week (it used to just be for essential workers).

I'm shocked you have to have to show a negative one to visit non essential shops!

It makes no sense to me that you don't need a negative one for essential shops? Like the virus knows the difference? It's all so confusing.

I would say a post office is essential!
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It's the same here @BreakForTheLight. They have the police officer who runs the "Comisaría Virtual" platform which is where you have to go request a permit to go out on the news regularly. People write in with questions about what you can and can't do, what permits you need, etc. Some of the answers are so convoluted that it makes your head spin.
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@Discombobulated It's a very smart virus haha! Here too, they do things like that. There can be three municipalities that are very interconnected but they will lock down two and leave the other one in a less restricted phase. People have been joking that the virus knows it has to behave if it crosses the street to the less restricted areas.
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