[oil_and_water]

I looked through the forums and couldn't think of a place this topic belonged. I am ADHD, so here goes nothing. How do you reconcile that everything is made up of what once amounted to and will in he future be no more than stardust? The sun will die and everyone I've ever known will be long gone. The earth will freeze and all life will cease to exist, my current goals seem meaningless and all efforts to do anything will in the end be fruitless. I have gone over this train of thought countless times and tried to rationalize it every time. The infinitely and rapidly expanding universe scoffs at any future involving human life in other galaxies and religion has yet to satisfy my need for answers. Someone please help.

[Maus5321]

Originally Posted by oil_and_water

I looked through the forums and couldn't think of a place this topic belonged. I am ADHD, so here goes nothing. How do you reconcile that everything is made up of what once amounted to and will in he future be no more than stardust? The sun will die and everyone I've ever known will be long gone. The earth will freeze and all life will cease to exist, my current goals seem meaningless and all efforts to do anything will in the end be fruitless. I have gone over this train of thought countless times and tried to rationalize it every time. The infinitely and rapidly expanding universe scoffs at any future involving human life in other galaxies and religion has yet to satisfy my need for answers. Someone please help.

Hhhhmmmmm that is a tough one to answer. I do agree with you on a few of the points such as that the sun will freeze and life will cease to exist. I would not venture to say it is an irrational thought, but we do not know when the end of the earth and human race a whole will come. It could come tomorrow if we collide with something from outer space or it could come in millions of years. Or maybe earth and or the universe could decide it is time to purge it of us humans and go dormant until it can cleanse itself of all the damage we have done. I am not a religious person because to me it is to empty of a belief. That is my opinion as a lot of it seems to be seems faith based. I am not trying to start any kind of religious debate just simply saying my opinion on that and if for some reason it is ever truly discovered from a purely scientific stand point that god and Jesus has never truly existed. To me that would be a really great let down if you put your heart and soul into it only to have it dashed away. I guess I feel the same way about life to. Nothing is for sure and we do know we all have an expiration date of when we will cease to exist. It is the constant never varying cycle of life. I suppose we all have to find a way to try and be happy within ourselves while we walk the earth. Because once out date is upon us, there is nothing more we can do or tell anyone. We cease to exist and all that is left of us is family members. I know I say to find happiness within ourselves , but I am not going to kid anyone here. I have not found happiness within myself. To be honest. I really do not feel I will be truly happy until I have finally met the day I cease to walk on this earth. As all my worries and anguishes will be gone. My only one wish is for me to live past my parents then after that I will wait for the day I cease to live and can finally lay in rest and not have to worry about anything. Also, my other feeling is that I wish I could go back to when my older brother was born so I could give him a chance at life instead of me. I wish I could trade mine for his and watch him from a 3rd person view and see what he would have with life and where it would have lead him. I do not tell my parents any of this but I did not ask to walk on this earth and in some weird twisted way I think it is selfish and unfair we did not have a choice in the matter of being born. I for one will not bring any children into this world. I do not like the world we live in today and would not want any child of mine to live in it. Humans keep building a bigger and bigger poop sammich and really I do not want to make anyone related to me by blood whom I have created to have to take any bite or even a nibble of it. To me that would be the cruelest thing I could do.

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[oil_and_water]

Thank you for the experience, Maus. Unfortunately from what you say, I am still stuck at square one. Any time I try to give myself purpose this fatalist thought keeps knocking me down.

[spondiferous]

This stuff goes through my head too. The first time I read that the sun would die in however many billions of years (just a couple months ago) I panicked. It's a tough one. Sometimes when I think about it I feel infinitely calmed, just thinking that I am such a tiny part of the whole and so really, I am not the center of the universe and the pressure is off of me to do anything other than sit back and enjoy the ride. However, since I'm too uptight to do that (haha) I usually just end up obsessing. When I'm dissociating it really freaks me out and all I can do is force myself to think about something else.

[Maus5321]

Originally Posted by oil_and_water

Thank you for the experience, Maus. Unfortunately from what you say, I am still stuck at square one. Any time I try to give myself purpose this fatalist thought keeps knocking me down.

I am sorry I could not give you a little insight into what you seek. I think for anyone to be able to do that. We would have to be able to think so far outside and beyond ourselves to really truly understand anything outside of ourselves. To do that we would have to be able to transcend ourselves in a way that is currently not possible and may never be. Our minds and bodies would have to change drastically to make what you and I any many others probably seek. It probably will not happen in out lifetime. But Hopefully it does in future generations. many people who walk earth today are ok with living with what they have and not thinking beyond there existence. But to many other people that is a mediocre way to live and they seek more. I guess you could call the same people who think the way some people live there lives as mediocre, could also be called thrill seekers looking for something beyond themselves.

[montanan4ever]

It helps me to look around and ask myself, "What can I do *right now* to improve the life of just one other person?" Get my head out of Big Picture questions and into the practical, immediate stuff.

[oil_and_water]

Thank you for the thoughts and perspective, I often try to stop looking at "the big picture" but I can't help but think about it. To know that we are all but atoms floating in precise clouds, we never really even touch one another (at least not on the atomic level). I guess that my best comfort is that among all the chaos, there will always be an undeniable order.

[yellowfrog268]

Well, the best way for me to reconcile these types of thoughts is to take the attitude that I should do my best to enjoy my life while I'm here, that's it. If it pleases me to make long term goals that will better my enjoyment of my time on earth then I will do so. But I do it with the understanding that I and my accomplishments will not survive the ages.

Just enjoy the time you have here on this planet as best as you can.

[montanan4ever]

Originally Posted by oil_and_water

Thank you for the thoughts and perspective, I often try to stop looking at "the big picture" but I can't help but think about it. To know that we are all but atoms floating in precise clouds, we never really even touch one another (at least not on the atomic level). I guess that my best comfort is that among all the chaos, there will always be an undeniable order.

How about going out and doing something for someone else? Go spend a half day volunteering at a soup kitchen, homeless shelter, thrift shop....ANYPLACE that requires practical service that takes you out of your house, away from your computer and gets you up and moving.

There is a big bunch of life out there where it doesn't matter what you think, it matters what you DO. This will help to give you some "out of brain" time and break the chain of endless thinkingthinkingthinking.