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Default Oct 17, 2016 at 06:33 PM
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I was watching one of these docummentaries driven by Morgan Freeman. It was about the after life and suddenly this sentence comes to my mind "Noone will talk about us when we die".
Yes, I know it. I'm all chatastrophic lately. I barely can't stand to be with myself.
So, my apologizes.

I was never worried about that before. It was the last aspect I would have worried about my avoidance. I was foccus on now and here, also the past with an attempt to try to answer my questions about why.

I know about some avoidants who have children. A few ones. But, I think it's not very usual. Thinking about my limited social net and my lack of strength to enlarge it or set stronger bonds with the ones I have I don't believe I will gonna be recalled by anyone or mean the difference for anyone.

I remember one of my teachers at Secondary school told us one time. " Guys, the last thing a person can do is being unnoticed". Now, I know what she wanted to mean. She was talking about being a fighter for the things you care. But, my god, this remark hurt me so much. I told to myself "hey, I agree with it but how I can do it, being like this. It's easy to say it but I can't".
It's not all about intentions. I'm full of good intentions. I would let me die to deffend a friend. But, you can be all full of good intentions and ideas but don't dare to give a step to put them into practice.
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Yes, I understand only too well what you're expressing. It's the despair and self loathing of not having been able to lead the life you wished you could have. Yes, society is all about planting ideas in our minds - ideas of greatness - but it falls short time and time again to mention the courage, the determination, or the will to carry on against the odds, in those who battle day in and day out with mental illness. People such as yourself.

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It's not all about intentions. I'm full of good intentions. I would let me die to deffend a friend. But, you can be all full of good intentions and ideas but don't dare to give a step to put them into practice.
I bet you have made many efforts on other occasions but you didn't all the time because you have AvPD. It's understandable. You're doing okay.
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Yes, I understand only too well what you're expressing. It's the despair and self loathing of not having been able to lead the life you wished you could have. Yes, society is all about planting ideas in our minds - ideas of greatness - but it falls short time and time again to mention the courage, the determination, or the will to carry on against the odds, in those who battle day in and day out with mental illness. People such as yourself.



I bet you have made many efforts on other occasions but you didn't all the time because you have AvPD. It's understandable. You're doing okay.
But, I shouldn't be so coward. Life was with me very generous. I had many help around. I can't say anything againts anyone. On the contrary, I think people around me is understanding and have lot of patience.
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But, I shouldn't be so coward. Life was with me very generous. I had many help around. I can't say anything againts anyone. On the contrary, I think people around me is understanding and have lot of patience.

Sure, I understand why you feel powerless, but the definition of a personality disorder is: a deeply ingrained and maladaptive pattern of behaviour of a specified kind, typically apparent by the time of adolescence, causing long-term difficulties in personal relationships or in functioning in society.

Meaning AvPD isn't going away overnight but you can find ways to manage it. Mindfulness training can help.
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I regret every day of my life

not for living (or not living), but for all the experiences/ oppotunities life has to offer, and I do none of them

I sit here and pig out on chocolate and post on here and think oh my god, why. why is my life so ****ed up

no one will talk about me when I die, I wouldn't want them to. some of the stuff they'd say about me is very disturbing (she was a low life, a couch potato, a greedy pig, a mental screw up) I don't want that
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i'm even thinking of asking for no funeral

I don't want 1- who would show up anyway
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Hey, folks. I don't have AvPD. Diagnosed with PDNOS 6 years ago but I think I would have qualified for OCPD before that but people weren't diagnosing PD's much years ago. I've been in a general mental health support group for 12 years and I think 2 of the others probably have AvPD. But they're either not sharing that or not diagnosed for similar reasons as me. Like I said, I've known these folks for about 12 years, care about them, even though I suspect our level of "relationship" some people might think is restricted.

Being very obsessive and compulsive I've done a lot of research about psychology and PD's and have some ideas about self-loathing and not being able to be yourself in the world and participate fully.

I agree, unfortunately a PD pattern isn't going away overnight. But, for me, a better understanding of what is, or might, be going on is helping me participate some with more "regular" folks.

I had been participating in the NPD forum -- those folks have some similarity with me. I learned a lot but the group seems to have dissipated for reasons I could speculate about but am not really sure. So . . .would you all be OK with me trying to participate some here?

Honestly, in my grand and glorious NPD, or codependent, way I'd also like to try to add something and help move the understanding of PD's forward, and help you all, if I can, which is something I wish I could do more for my friends, but lack the ability or understanding for. And, of course, I'd like to participate because participating helps me.

I also think that you AvPD's have a lot to offer the world that the world probably isn't too receptive to. Sucks for the world. So I'd like to learn some more about that, if I can.
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But, you can be all full of good intentions and ideas but don't dare to give a step to put them into practice.
I am a walking bag of "if only"s at this point, and as of today I'm fighting back. Hugs.
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So . . .would you all be OK with me trying to participate some here?
Hello here today. Speaking for myself I have no objections at all, go for it. Personally though, I've been a member here for about five days and the novelty's already worn off.
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i'm even thinking of asking for no funeral

I don't want 1- who would show up anyway
Neither, do I. The single idea of forcing people to put them in a situation where they have nothing to say about.

I understand your previous post. I feel the same.
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Hey, folks. I don't have AvPD. Diagnosed with PDNOS 6 years ago but I think I would have qualified for OCPD before that but people weren't diagnosing PD's much years ago. I've been in a general mental health support group for 12 years and I think 2 of the others probably have AvPD. But they're either not sharing that or not diagnosed for similar reasons as me. Like I said, I've known these folks for about 12 years, care about them, even though I suspect our level of "relationship" some people might think is restricted.

Being very obsessive and compulsive I've done a lot of research about psychology and PD's and have some ideas about self-loathing and not being able to be yourself in the world and participate fully.

I agree, unfortunately a PD pattern isn't going away overnight. But, for me, a better understanding of what is, or might, be going on is helping me participate some with more "regular" folks.

I had been participating in the NPD forum -- those folks have some similarity with me. I learned a lot but the group seems to have dissipated for reasons I could speculate about but am not really sure. So . . .would you all be OK with me trying to participate some here?

Honestly, in my grand and glorious NPD, or codependent, way I'd also like to try to add something and help move the understanding of PD's forward, and help you all, if I can, which is something I wish I could do more for my friends, but lack the ability or understanding for. And, of course, I'd like to participate because participating helps me.

I also think that you AvPD's have a lot to offer the world that the world probably isn't too receptive to. Sucks for the world. So I'd like to learn some more about that, if I can.
I know everyone have lots of things to offer. The sad face is that there are people who thinks the world works much better without them.

Welcome! I have no problems in learning and sharing with people similar or different to me.
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Hello here today. Speaking for myself I have no objections at all, go for it. Personally though, I've been a member here for about five days and the novelty's already worn off.
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Neither, do I. The single idea of forcing people to put them in a situation where they have nothing to say about.

I understand your previous post. I feel the same.


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i'm even thinking of asking for no funeral

I don't want 1- who would show up anyway
The funeral is not for you, it is for the loved ones who survive and mourn you.

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You never know how you touch others lives. The only thing you have control over is today.

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My two acquaintances/friends with what I think may be AvPD are two of the kindest, gentlest people I know. I do notice and appreciate it even if it's not the kind of thing I feel comfortable telling them. If they were gone I would definitely miss them.
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I really wish I had loved ones to begin with

but... oh well
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I really wish I had loved ones to begin with

but... oh well
People care about you on here. You have no IRL family and friends?

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