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Old Aug 07, 2013, 07:17 AM
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Please give me some advice to cope with the relentless pain I feel from my condition. I cant cope. I wish o had the energy and motivation to make my parents proud. Im slowly decaying from bottom to top. If there is anything you relate to then please tell me what I can do to beat this disease

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Old Aug 07, 2013, 10:09 AM
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If you don't already have a psychiatrist and/or a therapist, I would suggest getting one. This disease is hard to battle on you own. Being a parent, I'm sure your parents are proud of you. I'm sure they are concerned about what's going on with you. Parents hurt when their children are hurting. Be sure to talk to them about this and how you feel. Otherwise they can't help you.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 10:29 AM
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Firstly it would help if you quit thinking of yourself as diseased... Last time I checked we weren't contagious.

Secondly it would do you a world of good if you are able to see YOU and not just a darn diagnosis. There's so much more to you than bipolar, don't let it rule your life and rob you of your joy.

Its painful to learn we are "broken" by society's standards, but how we react to that news is our choice. We can wallow in depressive self-pity and die a slow death or we can decide to empower ourselves and kick bipolar's a.s.s

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Old Aug 07, 2013, 11:21 AM
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I found both of your advice very true and insightful. Thanks for liberating me and making me aware that I can ignore what I have all together and just keep living positively with good practice. Unfortunately I didnt graduate from high school nor have I got a bachelors. I just didnt have the motivation, concentration to finish and keep pushing. I was fine up until I was 17. It stared when I was 18. My Father helped me start a business which he invested all his savings in to and I still cant help him everyday with the venture. He tells me he is suffering deeply from me...

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Old Aug 07, 2013, 11:38 AM
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trippin yo...

disease wiki it
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 12:20 PM
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Disease
The term disease broadly refers to any condition that impairs normal function, and is therefore associated with dysfunction of normal homeostasis.[3] Commonly, term disease is used to refer specifically to infectious diseases, which are clinically evident diseases that result from the presence of pathogenic microbial agents, including viruses, bacteria, fungi, protozoa, multicellular organisms, and aberrant proteins known as prions. An infection that does not and will not produce clinically evident impairment of normal functioning, such as the presence of the normal bacteria and yeasts in the gut, or of a passenger virus, is not considered a disease. By contrast, an infection that is asymptomatic during its incubation period, but expected to produce symptoms later, is usually considered a disease. Non-infectious diseases are all other diseases, including most forms of cancer, heart disease, and genetic disease

.IllnessIllness and sickness are generally used as synonyms for disease.[4] However, this term is occasionally used to refer specifically to the patient's personal experience of their disease.[5][6] In this model, it is possible for a person have a disease without being ill (to have an objectively definable, but asymptomatic, medical condition), and to be ill without being diseased (such as when a person perceives a normal experience as a medical condition, or medicalizes a non-disease situation their life). Illness is often not due to infection, but to a collection of evolved responsessickness behavior by the body—that helps clear infection. Such aspects of illness can include lethargy, depression, anorexia, sleepiness, hyperalgesia, and inability to concentrate.[7][8][9]

Disorder
In medicine, a disorder is a functional abnormality or disturbance. Medical disorders can be categorized into mental disorders, physical disorders, genetic disorders, emotional and behavioral disorders, and functional disorders. The term disorder is often considered more value-neutral and less stigmatizing than the terms disease or illness, and therefore is preferred terminology in some circumstances. In mental health, the term mental disorder is used as a way of acknowledging the complex interaction of biological, social, and psychological factors in psychiatric conditions. However, the term disorder is also used in many other areas of medicine, primarily to identify physical disorders that are not caused by infectious organisms, such as metabolic disorders.

Medical condition
A medical condition is a broad term that includes all diseases and disorders. While the term medical condition generally includes mental illnesses, in some contexts the term is used specifically to denote any illness, injury, or disease except for mental illnesses. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the widely used psychiatric manual that defines all mental disorders, uses the term general medical condition to refer to all diseases, illnesses, and injuries except for mental disorders.[10] This usage is also commonly seen in the psychiatric literature. Some health insurance policies also define a medical condition as any illness, injury, or disease except for psychiatric illnesses.[11]As it is more value-neutral than terms like disease, the term medical condition is sometimes preferred by people with health issues that they do not consider deleterious. On the other hand, by emphasizing the medical nature of the condition, this term is sometimes rejected, such as by proponents of the autism rights movement.The term medical condition is also a synonym for medical state, in which case it describes an individual patient's current state from a medical standpoint. This usage appears in statements that describe a patient as being in critical condition, for example.

Morbidity

Morbidity
(from Latin morbidus, meaning "sick, unhealthy") is a diseased state, disability, or poor health due to any cause.[12] The term may be used to refer to the existence of any form of disease, or to the degree that the health condition affects the patient. Among severely ill patients, the level of morbidity is often measured by ICU scoring systems. Comorbidity is the simultaneous presence of two or more medical conditions, such as schizophrenia and substance abuse.In epidemiology and actuarial science, the term "morbidity rate" can refer to either the incidence rate, or the prevalence of a disease or medical condition. This measure of sickness is contrasted with the mortality rate of a condition, which is the proportion of people dying during a given time interval.SyndromeA syndrome is the association of several medical signs, symptoms, and or other characteristics that often occur together. Some syndromes, such as Down syndrome, have only one cause; others, such as Parkinsonian syndrome, have multiple possible causes. In other cases, the cause of the syndrome is unknown. A familiar syndrome name often remains in use even after an underlying cause has been found, or when there are a number of different possible primary causes.

Predisease
Predisease is a type of disease creep or medicalization in which currently healthy people with risk factors for disease, but no evidence of actual disease, are told that they are sick. Prediabetes and prehypertension are common examples. Labeling a healthy person with predisease can result in overtreatment, such as taking drugs that only help people with severe disease, or in useful preventive measures, such as motivating the person to get a healthful amount of physical exercise.[13]

Types

Infectious diseases
Contagious diseases
Foodborne illnessFoodborne illness or food poisoning is any illness resulting from the consumption of food contaminated with pathogenic bacteria, toxins, viruses, prions or parasites.
Communicable diseases
Non-communicable diseases
Airborne diseases
Lifestyle diseasesA lifestyle disease is any disease that appears to increase in frequency as countries become more industrialized and people live longer, especially if the risk factors include behavioral choices like a sedentary lifestyle or a diet high in unhealthful foods such as refined carbohydrates, trans fats, or alcoholic beverages.
Mental disordersMental illness is a broad, generic label for a category of illnesses that may include affective or emotional instability, behavioral dysregulation, and/or cognitive dysfunction or impairment. Specific illnesses known as mental illnesses include major depression, generalized anxiety disorder, schizophrenia, and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, to name a few. Mental illness can be of biological (e.g., anatomical, chemical, or genetic) or psychological (e.g., trauma or conflict) origin. It can impair the affected person's ability to work or study and harm interpersonal relationships. The term insanity is used technically as a legal term.
Organic diseaseAn organic disease is one caused by a physical or physiological change to some tissue or organ of the body. The term sometimes excludes infections. It is commonly used in contrast with mental disorders. It includes emotional and behavioral disorders if they are due to changes to the physical structures or functioning of the body, such as after a stroke or a traumatic brain injury, but not if they are due to psychosocial issues.
So yes, ok, "disease" technically applies - but according to wikipedia, which you said to reference, you can see QUITE clearly that disease is almost used exlusively for something infectious or contracted. You don't get infected with bipolar. You don't contract it. You don't transmit it.

Even under the "types" of diseases everything BUT mental disorders has disease in the name. Mental disorders is named as a disorder.

The technicalities of a word vs it's use in the common language are often very different in English. In all but the very technical sense of the word, bipolar disorder is not considered to be a disease. It is an illness, and a disorder. It is something which we have, which we are born with, which may be passed on genetically but it cannot be contracted by another no matter WHAT kind of contact they have with us.

I agree with Trippin that it would be beneficial to not consider yourself diseased. The word diseased brings up so many negative thoughts and it makes the individual feel powerless. We're not powerless! We have a great deal of control over our lives and can in fact learn how to live perfectly "normal" lives with the right meds and/or therapy and/or coping skills.

If someone was to call me diseased, quite frankly, I would be pissed off with them to a huge degree. I'm not a walking disease. I have a disorder, yes, but I'm NOT a disease.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 12:28 PM
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Thank you Red

Just an FYI, my *****Ometer breaks when I'm full of germs (Pharyngitus) so thank you for sparing me a super***** reply and possible reprimanding from mods.

Yo Lawren. I was making a point about perception, not giving a language lesson. I would appreciate it if you take context into context next time before attempting to make a fool of me or discredit my post. Not for my benefit, but because your previous response helped the OP how? Dont answer that, it was rhetorical I have no wish to engage.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 01:35 PM
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Thank you Red

Just an FYI, my *****Ometer breaks when I'm full of germs (Pharyngitus) so thank you for sparing me a super***** reply and possible reprimanding from mods.

Yo Lawren. I was making a point about perception, not giving a language lesson. I would appreciate it if you take context into context next time before attempting to make a fool of me or discredit my post. Not for my benefit, but because your previous response helped the OP how? Dont answer that, it was rhetorical I have no wish to engage.
What do you mean pal?

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Old Aug 07, 2013, 01:41 PM
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What do you mean pal?

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It was a response to a language lesson suggested further up... maybe you didn't read all your responses. idk.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 01:45 PM
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Whatever it indicates please remain on the topic. I need to know if there is way I can control my moods? I cant always be uninspired. I want succeas more than I want to breathe but dont have the energy and motivation "(

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Old Aug 07, 2013, 02:17 PM
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Now we're getting somewhere. Thanks for clarifying what it is you sought out from your post, the original one was vague and only mentioned pain and lack of motivation.

Meds, therapy, lifestyle changes, healthy eating and regular exercise can all help toward managing mood cycles effectively. Depends which management model appeals to you most. Also radical acceptance that bp isn't going anywhere will take you forward in leaps and bounds.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 02:24 PM
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Try opposite to emotion action. It's a tactic to use when you're depressed that involves pushing yourself to do things you don't want to do. It can be simple like getting out of bed and taking a shower. Then reward yourself in some small way. I have found it to be very helpful while in the throes of depression. Do one small thing a day to make yourself feel better - one thing you enjoy, and one thing that makes you feel competent. All this will help depression. Also, try to learn some mindfulness techniques to help keep you in the moment. That will help mood swings as well.

I highly recommend the DBT Workbook for bipolar if you feel like reading something.
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Old Aug 08, 2013, 01:50 AM
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Is it a chemical imbalance that causes this emotion of not feel like doing anything. Sometimes im the most eager person to do something productive other times I think of that same task and feel like its such an effort

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Old Aug 08, 2013, 07:35 AM
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I think you will find that everyone on the bipolar board feels that same way too

Hence how the opposite action is helpful. When you're down - do one of the things that you really don't feel like doing. When you're up - force yourself to chill out and take it easy for an evening.

It helps stop you from feeding the cycle. Depressions tend to get worse the longer they go on because we feel useless and worthless and like getting caught up on things is hopeless. (Hypo)manias tend to get worse the more we keep stimulating ourselves. So breaking the cycle of behaviour is one way to help with it - it might tone it down or help stop is sooner than otherwise.
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