...so many of you I like I trust I love like I know how not too well but this damn medication topic just gives me such agony deep down where I'm untouchable!

"I take this ,...I take that...this works for me this works better and I take that as well and then somethin' else!"

f..k me!

are you people aliens in my own world along side me an alien?

why ??

forgive me it's just I am freaking allergic to all these 'wonderdrugs' I hear about here....and I am not kidding it upsets me I cannot even ask for them??

"I take this to wake...I take this to daylight ...I take this to concentrate...I take this to wind down...I take this to sleep"

I am so fed up hearing about how successfull you all are doing this....I cannot my brain wants to kill me when I introduce a drug.

I take one mood stabilser ...stuffed if I know what it does...

I'm sorry I'm just frustrated by those who just do what the doctor says they will do...calm down...be cool...be ok...be better.

never worked for me

(monkey pity party Im sorry)

Monkey... I'm sorry you have bad reactions to the meds. I know with ADD there are about 10% who just either have no benefit or bad side effects from the meds. The RX is part of the treatment and I am finding that other things help too. I've taling Omega3 fish oil and believe it or not Juice Plus, which sounded like one of those get rich scams, until I read Delivered from Distraction and Dr Hallowell takes them himself. Exercise has a huge effect on how I feel and helps with sleep.

The interesting thing is that I used to need anti depressants, sleeping pills, allegy meds, asthma meds, reflux meds on a daily basis. I was obese, had sleep apnea, asthma, developing heart issues, depressed, angry, sad and lost.

I guess I was extremely lucky that my psych hit the nail on my big head. The Adderall lifted the fog from my brain and it seemed that a domino effect was placed into motion. Adderall is the only daily RX for me now. An occasional Klonopin if my anxiety spikes and the daily dietary suppliments. No apnea, asthma, allergies not too bad, heart is good, i dropped 90+ pounds and have maintained it for 2 1/2 years. Still have ups and downs, but most people do.

I hope you can find a formula to balance your universe because you deserve it. Keep posting and we can keep working through things. I'm sure we can find some help from others who cannot take the meds. We can pick their brains

Orbiting this planet is a lot harder than it looks. All we can do is keep tweaking the thrusters to keep her going around. Hang in there brother

thanks buddy...yeah I'm frustrated!

it's terrific the success you have had YYZ...thanks for telling me.

what you have achieved deserves credit.

you are in my orbit.....

james (me) needs to sleep now ....it's been another manic night

I'm getting alot of these lately but it's ok...

have a good evening there in Mesquite buddy

DM

thanks again

[Victoria'smom]

I have taken all of the allowed mood stabilsers, except lithium. The only one that seem to help is the one I'm on. Most AD's send me into a SU psychosis and I'm terrified of AP's. I can't take anything that causes possible weight gain. Which really limits what I can take. I'm sorry your allergic. What non-med things have you tried?

[cocoabeans]

Just wait a few months and you'll see. "I'm so depressed guys!" "Hey, I'm feeling kind of manic"

The drugs don't really work.

[Blue Poppy]

Well I wouldn't necessarily say that the drugs have worked out so well for me. It is like walking on a tight rope with the wind blowing. I have decided I don't like this mood stabilizer or the effexor, but I feel trapped in using them, because I need to work and I don't know what will happen if I titrate down.

[bluemountains]

James, I get your frustration. I play the pill game, but what does it do? I can't sleep, so take this, I sleep too much, which one do I drop? I take the pills and I don't want to, I don't take the pills and I am a puddle on the floor.

Start over-this for depression, that for mood stabilizing , this for sleep, that for a messed up thyroid. The blood pressure, the cholesterol, the kidney problems, the diabetes. etc. etc. etc

How did the generation before us live? Oh yeah, aspirin!

Bluemountains

I used to take the meds, There is hardly any that they use for bipolar that I haven't taken. I took them because I was desperate, I was told they would "fix" things, I was told I needed them for life, that I couldn't do it without them, I was told all that by the doctors. And I wasn't offered much else, not even after all my complaints for years.

I really believed I did need them, I had no faith in myself and I didn't have enough skills, nor the best ones for me. I do think people can do this, I don't think meds really work very good. If they do then really there would not be many people here. I don't blame the people tho, it's a bit like an abusive relationship (always being told you need them, can't do it on your own, powerless) If someone is already depressed it's not that hard to finish pummeling them into the ground. Thing is the doctors believe what they are telling you too. And maybe sometimes we do need the meds, but maybe it might be better if we were taught how to use them as an aide to getting well enough to really get well, but we are taught to use them as the final solution. They promise you they will help, you're desperate and you need hope. So you take it.

I was told by 3 different psychiatrits that I really needed to be on antipsychotics for life, and "why won't you just take them? That's why you are sick, cause you won't stay on it forever", hmm no, nope I don't need those for life. And yes, I'd love to see those doctors take those meds even just once.

I have some serious gripes with our current medical model for M.I. and this goes beyond Pdocs and meds and even into therapy. But I'll save that rant for a different day.

If there was a way to make massive profits off the other ways of dealing, perhaps we'd have a bit more balance.

Oh, and the power balance between patient and doctor isn't exactly level. That doesn't help either.

[Anneinside]

Originally Posted by bluemountains

Start over-this for depression, that for mood stabilizing , this for sleep, that for a messed up thyroid. The blood pressure, the cholesterol, the kidney problems, the diabetes. etc. etc. etc

How did the generation before us live? Oh yeah, aspirin!

Bluemountains

For mental illness, the generation before us used hard core drugs - Haldol, Mellaril and lithium has been used for about 50 years. Then there was ECT without anesthesia. For non-mental illnesses, they died earlier. Funny, now that we use aspirin prophylacticaly for heart problems we have forgotten it can be used for pain.

But we still do use these hard core drugs, lithium, haldol, thorazine. Zyprexa isnt very soft core.

Sorry, I try not to be to bitter about this subject, but sometimes I feel like I got ripped off and mislead big time. No one told me I was going to get the Thorazine shuffle, I was only told it would make me 'better'.