[bumble2u]

So I read a post regarding Abilify ( which I'm not on but you may have read the post) and someone stated that they get over -emotional at things on radio and T.V Well this kind of triggered something in me that I thought I would ask. Because, I chastise myself every time it happens.
I'll be driving along in my car and there will be a sports commentator getting really rallied about latest hockey score or something and their voice will start low and then get super-animated. Now, I'm not one for sports and it holds no relevance for me but suddenly I will start to tear up then at the end I almost break down into uncontrollable sobs (which is inconvenient whilst driving). Other things seem to do it too. Stories of peoples successes and kindnesses on the news. Irrelevant things like an oil pipe-line??? and I wonder what?? so I swallow the tears and suppress the yells that wish to ensue. I feel so daft, I don't know where it comes from? It's been happening a lot this week and I wonder whether maybe this is because at the moment I am really trying to pretend I'm ok. I can't afford to be miserable I have guests, I have a bucket load of work to do ( which I should be doing now grrr) But no concentration.
I'd really like t know if others get this. I feel it's a bit like when you ask your mates whether they can hear voices too and they don't

[Lillyleaf]

The short answer is yes:

The long one is sometimes

I promise your not alone, I've heard it from others with BP (and other mental illnesses) as well.

~Lilly

[EJB5565]

I seem to cry at simple things like shows on tv that show people stories. I found that this went down when my abilify was reduced. The pdoc does not want me to reduce my dosage so I am not sure what to do about it other just live with it. I disagree with his suggestion as I think it may make me still hold on to my depressed feelings.

[Skittles56]

I tend to cry about simple things. It's not stupid, but it doesn't warrant such strong emotions. Sometimes movies tear me up. I'm pretty sure it's the BP.

[noshadows]

Yes, I'm the same. I've not been on abilify for a very long time. I think it's just being BP?

[bumble2u]

Yeah, the more I think about it I think it is just one of those BP things and for me BPD things too as I am very stimulated by the show of emotion or perception of an emotion. One time I was in a meeting and I felt rage and anger coming from somewhere. Sure enough in the next minute the person in the next room was throwing a chair against the wall and all the alarms went off.

[Amelie10]

There are definitely times where I have inappropriate emotional reactions to things. It's hard to predict and even harder to control.

[HD7970GHZ]

Hey guys,

Good thread. I appreciate everyone's input!

I have a question bumble2u,

You said, "I think it is just one of those BP things and for me BPD things too as I am very stimulated by the show of emotion or perception of an emotion."

That really is something that I relate to a lot. As far back as I remember - I've been stimulated by the emotions in the room - and can even take on those emotions in equal to or greater intensity... (I must clarify - that: given that most human's can and do the same - I don't look at it as being anything unique to anyone or any kind of diagnosis in particular. This is just a genuine curiosity more than anything... Which leads me to my question...)

My question center's on my diagnosis. I have Borderline PD - I am a textbook case in some ways and less so in other ways. This is an official diagnosis. I've had the diagnosis for the last 3.5 years.

I have been reading online that Borderline and Bipolar seem to co-occur often and that they are typically diagnosed together (Co-morbid diagnosis).

So, my question is this: Do you think that Borderline themes, topics and, "triggers," could solely be the onset of your bipolar symptoms?

To clarify: What I mean is - do you think you could experience bipolar if it were not for your borderline features? The triggers I mean - being that they set you off and lead to more intense emotions and you get caught up in a spiral of escalating intensity?

In all honesty - as soon as my borderline stuff kicks in - I can become a textbook bipolar - in terms of symptoms and intensity of emotions. I can even become euphoric and touch on mania in all honesty.

After having an intense breakup or an emotional episode, [[that is most DEFINITELY a product of my borderline triggers]] - I find myself becoming super creative and motivated. In university - I would become isolated - conjure up creative links between all my classes - and focus all my attention on creating theories and new ways of thinking... The scary part about it is - it was [for the most part - minus the emotional parts ] intelligent and could potentially be useful in some ways...

So my thoughts are - after an extreme emotional experience of pain and agony and hell on earth in the form of endless suffering and inner turmoil: I find the NEED to escape... My escape leads me to find strength from, "within," - that strength from within comes at a cost - in that the only way I can access it: is through the cycles of extreme highs and lows... The benefit always outweighs the cost if I utilize my new-found inspiration and motivation to do something creative...

Then there is the whole side: That creative people tend to be more emotional. Being that when in an extreme emotional state, we typically lose the ability to call upon and fully rely on the logical side of the brain: Via Logic and reasoning - since emotions tend of override our intellectual side...

Do you think that creative genius is simply the ability to use BOTH our intellectual and creative sides of the brain; as in, "Logical, and Emotional?" Whilst still maintaining enough awareness to catch ourselves in such states - use inner reflection and introspection to take from it what we can - and express it in ways that are tangible to others?

Does anyone relate to this? Do you think it's possible that borderline is just a specific trigger - but the symptoms actually are: bipolar?

Another thing, medications aren't specifically used to treat a diagnosis for Borderline - but I know that when I have been on Seroquel, my life has been a whole lot less hectic!

I know that for Borderline PD, it is said that the emotions typically last a short amount of time, whereas with bipolar - the emotions can continue for weeks and even months...

Anyone have insight into this?

Thanks,

HD7970Ghz

[bumble2u]

My thoughts are quite jumbled today but your post has made me think.

I reckon there are a few things that make you borderline or and bipolar.
Some people I think are just born extremely sensitive,
then there's genetics
and then there's circumstance.

For me when I look back I think I was born that way, a lack of empathy and a dose of abuse certainly leads me to a better understanding of why I overreact in certain situations.

I recall having moods and seeing things from a really early age. My parents and teachers just expressed that I had a big imagination. Which is true I do. I'm a pretty creative person . My thoughts are usually on fire to a certain degree and I can't always get the concentration though to funnel them into some useful or spectacular.

["B]I would become isolated - conjure up creative links between all my classes - and focus all my attention on creating theories and new ways of thinking... The scary part about it is - it was [for the most part - minus the emotional parts ] intelligent and could potentially be useful in some ways..." [/B]

I do a version of this when spill into depression or mania, then my world becomes interlinked , bird's flight paths have coded meanings that only I have the key to, birds will start appearing everywhere, then they'll send messages, sometimes they will break into atoms I will see their atoms connected to mine, I am one I know the secret of invisibility etc.. Cars become colour coded they will determine the fate of the day. Actually I am seeing links that nobody will see, but I know I am right.

I was quite convincing as a child I got my friends to rescue bees with water because they were the messengers of the animal kingdom and I had a direct link to Morgan le fay who spoke to me through my lip balm and clouds in the sky. I know that all sounds a bit loopy but it made sense at the time.

I think when I was a child I just excepted all this as reality and didn't question it much. However; when I became a teenager my thoughts were still going interesting places others around me had lost the curiosity and they all began to give signals that my thinking wasn't like their thinking and I was odd.

And the more you feel odd the more your inner critic starts to chastise you and the pain in rejection becomes a trigger for the BPD, So I would feel all this stuff at the time but not know what it was I was feeling . I had to stop feeling because it was constant heartache. So in my case i drank which made the feeling happy but I would take this too far and I would get crazy upset. that pattern has been pretty much my life. Especially when it is re-enforced that any emotion is somehow wrong.

for me the bipolar aspect happened much later although now I recognise patterns in my life when I think it was more hypo mania than mania. As you said the Bipolar mood seems to be a more constant whereas the BPD will flare up like a bonfire with gasoline.

It was really when they told me I had psychotic depression and they started to medicate me with anti-depressant that I first experienced full blown manic symptoms. I have done a lot of work on my BPD and that has calmed down an awful lot but my bipolar symptom have become very difficult to manage. So actually I am really interested to know if that's happened to anyone.

I take seroquel too and it has helped with hearing and seeing stuff all the time. It also means I sleep now but I've had some things like brain fog, tiredness, weight gain.
I definitely think the BPD moments can trigger a manic or depressive episode though.