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Default Oct 22, 2013 at 04:40 AM
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I was wondering if anyone has had any success living a some what normal life without medication and how you were able to achieve it. I have been unmedicated for about 8 years and I stopped taking meds really young. I was under the impression my parents wanted to scuplt me into a model child.

But my sense of logic then was hey if I was ment to be wild then I will be wild and if something was wrong I was strong enough to control it. Boy did I learn I was wrong I've been umedicated for so long the mood swings, irritiablity, and everything else that accompanys it has become who I think I am on the normal which I don't even know what is anymore. Its become extremely harmful to my family, friends, and yea social life.

Is there anything you do to restore normalitly to life and before you say take meds or see a therapist I don't have the insurance nor time to do any of it.
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Default Oct 22, 2013 at 05:46 AM
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It is a matter of choice. Truth is, there could be times one gets out of line with standards and reality- when your judgement is not right. This stray can lead to embarrasing behaviour. I lived in denial about my mental health and very often, in the past, stayed without meds. It made me do some things i am not proud of or blush when someone recount things i did. Play safe. Take meds and go for therapy.
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Default Oct 22, 2013 at 07:06 AM
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There's various people on the boards who are med-free, or who has been mostly med-free.

I'm currently on lamictal, but I've been med and diagnose free for over a decade since I noticed things were off? I just went on the meds to help with a currently stressful situation that will take a long time to resolve.

I found what helped the most in regulating myself (and keep in mind, my depressions can be severe but my hypomanias are always pretty tame) was keeping a good sleep routine and maintaining habits and routines in my life in regards to chores. And the healthier I eat the better things go.

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Default Oct 22, 2013 at 09:22 AM
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I'm med free and I live a pretty calm good life. For me the biggest thing was perspective. Working on DBT and CBT type therapy. I didn't do most of that work in therapy but books and internet. Using mindfulness, meditation and yoga. Getting skills to to deal with depression, which can curb it quickly. Learning how to manage my life in way that brings me a sense of contentment.

Other things that have helped me are having a healthy diet, I am also gluyen free due to celiac but that had a big impact in my mood. Activity, finding sports I enjoy and can do regulary. Generally tryig to achieve a healthy balance all around.

It was a long process for me.I was medicated for many years. The meds seemed to make things worse for me so I looked for other ways to bring stability into my life before I got off them. I had a pretty ttaumatic upbringing so I did need to do a lot of work on my issues. I had what looked like a pretty bleak case of bipolar and other mental health problems.

I think that a happy peaceful life can be found with meds and without. But it is not easy either way, it takes effort but I think that it's worth it.

Sometimes meds are not a bad option either until you get to a place where you are stable and have figired out what you need to bring that balance, so you feel comfortable and confidant that you can work without them. And the knowledge to know when to ask for help if it is not working out.

Medications are no gaurentee of "normal" or content peaceful life, so I think these things are important for people on meds too, and important for people of all walks of life, metally ill or not. Creating the life we want is important.

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Default Oct 22, 2013 at 11:02 AM
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I have been going on just 600 mgs of lithium for a few months now. I have a little bit more symptoms from when i was on 900 but not much. I hate the naesea feeling it gives me, so im trying to find a new Pdoc who is willing to give me more options
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...my sense of logic then was hey if I was ment to be wild then I will be wild and if something was wrong I was strong enough to control it. Boy did I learn I was wrong I've been umedicated for so long the mood swings, irritiablity, and everything else that accompanys it has become who I think I am on the normal which I don't even know what is anymore...
I feel the same way, but also I feel conflicted. In my early 20s I was on and off meds and decided that being off meds was better for me in the long term. How I am is just how I am. I am what I am and that's it. As time went on, my symptoms became harder and harder to coupe with. My career, my family, my relationship all began to suffer. Then in a manic state I tried to exit a hotel by climbing out a third floor window so I finally sought out medical help.

This time around my results have been alot better. Before, I was too young and impatient. I hadn't really suffered any major consequence so I didn't see the danger in my behavior. My pdoc told me choosing to take meds to be successful shows my level of control. Maybe you need to reach that conclusion for yourself. And maybe it sounds cliche to say, but perhaps you haven't found the right meds yet.
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Default Oct 22, 2013 at 05:12 PM
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I say take drugs and go to therapy. *shrug* I can't go off my meds or bad things happen.

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Default Oct 23, 2013 at 04:12 AM
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It can be def done.

I personally chose to use herbals and bach essences to help out the with mood cycles.

But mostly it's about "attitude" (I am NOT talking "happy thoughts". Rather somewhat buddhist approach). And coping. I use visualization meditation to combat the dark and twisted thoughts. And finding what works for you. Find your outlet. Look for good omens. They are there. Focus on your most troublesome behaviours and set some roadblocks. Fantasize the "wrong" but don't do it if it helps.

It's easy to say "take your meds". 12 letter advice. But even if you take them... meds are only portion of the deal. Many here follow the 12 letter advice and still struggle. It's really not as easy as that.

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Default Oct 23, 2013 at 03:50 PM
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I've had un-medicated success...
My dx only came officially early 30's so I had plenty of years dealing. Pot helped me through the teen years, or so I thought.
But bp being eposidic makes me feel like, hey just give me some relief for when i'm in the thick of it. This is not high blood pressure that requires constant toxic med in my system.
I just need something now, help me get out of my bed, help me sleep, help me keep my job during.
It's an episode and will pass - and allow me to not take the meds in between. My pdoc and many others I'm sure disagree, my body, let me do it my way.
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Default Oct 27, 2013 at 05:43 AM
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I took no medications in my thirties but had one manic episode with psychotic features when I was 40 stopped medication stopped meds after 2 -3 years but had another hypo manic episode at 44 requiring hospitalisation so now at 46 I imagine I will continue taking meds until I'm 50 and evaluate then. As a parent being unwell is too disruptive to my family so I not prepared to take the risk and rarely miss taking meds twice daily... But I am sure there are many who manage their illness in a variety of ways...without meds.( I also took Meds in my twenties)
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Default Oct 27, 2013 at 07:26 AM
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Depends what you define as success. I quit my meds 2 yrs ago and have managed to work and be a single mother. There are a few members going without meds, we each just sought out what worked for us and stuck to it. Just like meds, its an individual path, filled with trial and error, what works for me may not work for Adam. A large dose of acceptance, a healthy portion of lifestyle tweaking and a support system is neccessary with or without meds, but can save your life while without.

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Please can anyone tell me what "12 letter advice" is?
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I think it's going to depend entirely on the severity you have. That' why some can and most can't. I have gone 7 years with out meds! Average is 2 years. It's been like this for me for the past 35 years. Some people can never ever go without meds or should not. Everyone is different. There is no one answer here.

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I'm med free and I live a pretty calm good life. For me the biggest thing was perspective. Working on DBT and CBT type therapy. I didn't do most of that work in therapy but books and internet. Using mindfulness, meditation and yoga. Getting skills to to deal with depression, which can curb it quickly. Learning how to manage my life in way that brings me a sense of contentment.

Other things that have helped me are having a healthy diet, I am also gluyen free due to celiac but that had a big impact in my mood. Activity, finding sports I enjoy and can do regulary. Generally tryig to achieve a healthy balance all around.

It was a long process for me.I was medicated for many years. The meds seemed to make things worse for me so I looked for other ways to bring stability into my life before I got off them. I had a pretty ttaumatic upbringing so I did need to do a lot of work on my issues. I had what looked like a pretty bleak case of bipolar and other mental health problems.

I think that a happy peaceful life can be found with meds and without. But it is not easy either way, it takes effort but I think that it's worth it.

Sometimes meds are not a bad option either until you get to a place where you are stable and have figired out what you need to bring that balance, so you feel comfortable and confidant that you can work without them. And the knowledge to know when to ask for help if it is not working out.

Medications are no gaurentee of "normal" or content peaceful life, so I think these things are important for people on meds too, and important for people of all walks of life, metally ill or not. Creating the life we want is important.
Thank you for sharing your success without meds. It is so important that others suffering and not finding success with meds realize that there is a way to live comfortably without meds. Change your thoughts, change your life.
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I have had symptoms of bipolar 2 ever since I was a young child and went un-medicated until this year. I took on too many units and jobs which caused me to experience my first manic episodes. This had a snowballing effect on my mania and was only able to get it under control when meds kicked in.

I honestly doubt that many people with bipolar 1 can function well completely un medicated since mania causes us to do many stupid societally un-acceptable things. If there is a bipolar 1 success story I would certainly love to hear it.
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I have had symptoms of bipolar 2 ever since I was a young child and went un-medicated until this year. I took on too many units and jobs which caused me to experience my first manic episodes. This had a snowballing effect on my mania and was only able to get it under control when meds kicked in.

I honestly doubt that many people with bipolar 1 can function well completely un medicated since mania causes us to do many stupid societally un-acceptable things. If there is a bipolar 1 success story I would certainly love to hear it.

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Please can anyone tell me what "12 letter advice" is?
Take your meds. Twelve letters.

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Default Dec 07, 2013 at 01:42 PM
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I think everyone of us is different. For some this works very well. For others, not so much. In my personal experience, my BP has been VERY self-destructive. I do not want to experience that depth of depression, or the living hell my dysphoric hypomania can be. Not to mention that my garden variety hypomania has led me on flights of fancy that had horrible consequences, (even though before the consequences, I was having a good time).

I have done lots of therapy throughout my life, but for me, the meds are the only thing that have given me some degree of mood stability (some degree, not perfect).

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Doesn't this depend on the severity of the condition? I tried anti depressants for years which had no effects and my condition has a lot of fatigue and my experiment with Seroquel just made me more and more drowsy that I simply wouldn't be able to get into work.

I have also linked a lot of my experience to repressed early experiences and have tried numerous alternative therapies. This is OK but if it links in with genetic issues there is still a problem. I have not really done the meds thing despite having a BP and BPD diagnosis. Not sure it is the right thing because I cannot form lasting relationships, have issues with timekeeping at work and binge drink and eat a lot.

What I have not done is learn to pace myself on my terms with me neglecting my needs and trying to suit everyone else's. I am going to genuinely try and do that at my own pace and see what happens. My psych says I need to look to just experience these strong emotions I have. That seems well and good but I am not sure that he knows how severe they can be.
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There was a time when I was on no meds. How I managed the BP was I exercised basically all day, like you would go to work- I went to exercise : 5 days a week, and maybe the weekends too.
After awhile my body couldn't take it anymore. All I could do was swim laps, which was better than nothing, but not enough. Sleepless. Never hungry. Depressed or Manic. Depressed and Manic. Agitated.
I had to take meds or my life would have been in rack and ruins.
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