[ozzy1313]

Do non-mentally ill people think about suicide? I am not suicidal but sometimes the thought comes to me that hey, I should kill myself. Or I really messed up, so I should kill myself. And then I plan it out etc. (again, not suicidal though) just thoughts that fly through my brain.

I asked my husband and he said he has never thought about suicide but he is the most mentally stable person I have met.

[Sprite22]

Something must not be right if you think about it. I would talk to a doctor about that. Hope you feel okay.

[Blitter2014]

Coming from me this comment probably doesn't reflect those who have their sanity intact but:

I think most people would have suicidal thoughts at some stage of their life. I also think they would rather quickly dismiss them when compared to the mentally ill. Or me....

Stay safe and be well. Hugs

[cosmic.yiana]

You know that's a really good question. I wonder if stress hits them hard if they have fleeting moments of thinking about it but it probably does not linger like MI does.

If you have those thoughts and they linger get help and stay safe. Hugs.

[wiretwister]

I have been su many times over the years and thought i was normal,, was only dxed recently but may have been mi the whole time..

[venusss]

Fleeting thoughts illness do not make.

If you dwell on it, that is something different, but occassional thought of how it would be to end yourself or how it would be if you died...... they happen to most people.

[Crazy Hitch]

IMO other people may have fleeting thoughts. Split seconds. But they wouldn't dwell on it.

Mine would probably last longer and be congruent with a mood episode.

[BipolaRNurse]

I've never not been mentally ill, so I wouldn't know. But my husband, who's as well-put-together as they come, says he's had occasional brief thoughts about suicide in his life, but they never stuck around for long, and he's never had a plan nor made an attempt.

Now he's got cancer, so it makes me ashamed that I can even THINK of taking my own life while he's fighting so hard for his. (Not that I'm thinking that way now, but I did have a pretty significant depressive episode in late June.) I talked to my priest about it this afternoon though and felt much better afterward. Confession is one of the hardest things I have to do as a Catholic, but it really is good for the soul.

[Crazy Hitch]

Originally Posted by BipolaRNurse

I've never not been mentally ill, so I wouldn't know. But my husband, who's as well-put-together as they come, says he's had occasional brief thoughts about suicide in his life, but they never stuck around for long, and he's never had a plan nor made an attempt.

Now he's got cancer, so it makes me ashamed that I can even THINK of taking my own life while he's fighting so hard for his. (Not that I'm thinking that way now, but I did have a pretty significant depressive episode in late June.) I talked to my priest about it this afternoon though and felt much better afterward. Confession is one of the hardest things I have to do as a Catholic, but it really is good for the soul.

Just read some of your blogs. You're an amazing writer! Wish I could have that talent

[Creative1onder]

I dont like the term 'mentally ill' people. People may have illness but they are not ill as individuals, they aren't their illness. 90% of suicides are due to a severe depression. Some suicides may be driven by high degree of stress or drug-related.

[~Christina]

There are many suicides that happen for "non mentally ill" people... Many times if a person loses a spouse or a child or loved one they just cant and dont want to go on without there loved ones. These people may be dealing with plain ole grief.... Grief isnt a mental illness.

Just a thought

[lilypup]

My stable husband says he never has had sui thoughts. But hey, there's a lot of room for variety in thoughts and people.
I'm a huge believer in professionals. If I were you, I might go see a therapist once and talk it over. They would be better to offer you an opinion. Hugs.

[Creative1onder]

I believe personally and research does show that the majority of suicidal cases are linked with depression. So not the choice or fault of the person. Not cos they are selfish but because they have suffered too much and cant see a bright way through. Some may also be influenced by drugs. Depression is largely stress related.

[Creative1onder]

How do you know if 'many' people end their lives without being affected by depression. If someone is deeply affected /traumatised by an event /or suffered highly stressful life experiences that can well lead to depression and in turn suicide.

[Creative1onder]

And i dont have trust in professionals either to offer decent level of care, help and support to all people with severe challenging conditions that could lead to suicide.

[tealBumblebee]

T and I have talked about this; and no not everyone has had those thoughts. She has told me how people in her family have expressed they've never even conceived any kind of notion to think of that. She believes them though, as do I. Doesn't mean you're mentally ill because you have had those thoughts; but no those aren't thoughts that everyone have.

[Curious651]

It has been my experience that most ppl do have SI and the thoughts come and go. I believe it is typically brief and momentary. I know for myself those thoughts come when very depressed. I don't like to think about them because I have had past moments that I acted in them. Not a good thing and I know I have hurt the ppl around me. Unfortunately I have two siblings with different dx and I know the one has bp as well and he has SI. Not sure this is what you were looking for. Take care of your self

[hamster-bamster]

Originally Posted by venusss

If you dwell on it, that is something different, but occassional thought of how it would be to end yourself or how it would be if you died...... they happen to most people.

Both my PCP and one of my former pdocs are of the same opinion - fleeting thoughts of suicide happen in the majority of folks.

[bipolar gemini]

Good question, in my opinion, it's mainly due to OUR tendency to go to the extreme and that's why "normal" people tend not to think of it as much.

*I said "our" because if you're in this section we are all dealing with the same illness and should be offering support and not getting hung up on words like "mentally ill"... because there is no "normal".

[Creative1onder]

Yeah there is no 'Normal' or 'same' about people. Truth is it can be hard to detect depression in others. People may be experiencing quite severe depression and having dark suicidal thoughts but its hard for others to know that whats going on in their minds.

Originally Posted by Blitter2014

Coming from me this comment probably doesn't reflect those who have their sanity intact but:

I think most people would have suicidal thoughts at some stage of their life. I also think they would rather quickly dismiss them when compared to the mentally ill. Or me....

Stay safe and be well. Hugs

seconded.

i'm pretty sure everyone at 1 stage gets so fed up that they think like that

mentally ill or not, life's a long rocky road- and some people just can't handle that

[ombrétwilight]

I once asked my T whether "normal" people thought about death and she replied that if someone came in and told her they pondered it twice a year she wouldn't be concerned. However, suicidal thoughts occur to me almost 24/7 and only differs in intensity (sometimes they fade in the BG while other times they compel me), which is abnormal to her. She says that most people think about death now and then and that is absolutely normal but it's a different ballgame to actually plan and act on them.

[Creative1onder]

You have to be overwhelmed by difficult stressful circumstances and be in a depressive state to be considering ending your life. People who experience suicidal thoughts arent always able to talk, express their feelings to others or when they do try to talk they arent listened to or treated with care and respect. Suicidal thoughts and feelings should always be taken seriously because they can lead to suicidal action. Depression is a key factor in people who experience dark suicidal ideas and feelings but it is not easy to detect or understand.

[Creative1onder]

People are different. We all have our own demons, stresses, weaknesses and suffering. Yes some people have more severe challenging life experiences and have trouble coping and need help. But they arent crazy or weird for suffering from their issues. They are still individuals. They just may act in extreme ways that arent their true self and other people dont understand.