[cool09]

blogs.psychcentral.com

I found this comparison of mood stabilizers really interesting. I was very surprised by the Lamictal and Haldol findings.

Treat Manic Episode | Lithium | Haldol | Antipsychotics | Bipolar Beat

[Tucson]

The article refers to acute mania. I think Lamotragine works best with helping to prevent hypomania.

[Trippin2.0]

I'm not surprized at all, "treating mania" translates to "sedate the shyt out of you until your brain resets".


So APs, especially Haldol makes perfect sense as the most effective treatment.

This is going to blow off your wigs. Anyone see 60 Minutes the other week with the doctors discussing the new, extremely and ridiculous priced hepatitis drug. They discussed how big of a scam and conspiracy that big pharma really is.

Big pharma in the U.S. does not give a DAMN about you, your health, or anything else except big profits. Period.

[Blitter2014]

I though Lamotrigine was more for treating the depression and anxiety side of bipolar, so not suprised at study.

Must be a nightmare for Pdocs to keep up with all the meds

[Crazy Hitch]

Originally Posted by Blitter2014

I though Lamotrigine was more for treating the depression and anxiety side of bipolar, so not suprised at study.

Must be a nightmare for Pdocs to keep up with all the meds

Yeah I'm with you on that one - thought lamatrogine was more of a preventative measure for depression. Think my AP prevents the hypomania.

[venusss]

Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

I'm not surprized at all, "treating mania" translates to "sedate the shyt out of you until your brain resets".


So APs, especially Haldol makes perfect sense as the most effective treatment.

Indeed.

We have to question though, if it is worth it.

Bombing of Hiroshima was effective too, but one does not drop a-bomb on their neighbours house to solve some small dispute.

So neither should one use hardcore drugs as maintaince and "just in case person might get bit manic" line of treatment.

[Trippin2.0]

Originally Posted by venusss

Indeed.

We have to question though, if it is worth it.

Bombing of Hiroshima was effective too, but one does not drop a-bomb on their neighbours house to solve some small dispute.

So neither should one use hardcore drugs as maintaince and "just in case person might get bit manic" line of treatment.

Agreed Venus, I'm all for "nip this shyt in the bud" meds, but I still struggle to fathom "take all these pills incase something goes wrong" meds... I mean that school of thought is just plain misleading, because, truth is, these pills don't prevent jack shyt, but I'm happy that they manage to help alleviate the symptoms for some of the folks who take them.

[venusss]

Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

Agreed Venus, I'm all for "nip this shyt in the bud" meds, but I still struggle to fathom "take all these pills incase something goes wrong" meds... I mean that school of thought is just plain misleading, because, truth is, these pills don't prevent jack shyt, but I'm happy that they manage to help alleviate the symptoms for some of the folks who take them.

What I am baffled is when people say "remember you are on these pills for a REASON!" as if you are never supposed to stop taking any medication after your symptoms subside. Then they are suprised nothing works for them and they get episodes even on three AP coctail. D'oh, your body is so accustomed to these, that it doesn't react to anything anymore. This is one of the reasons for minimalist medicine. Since this stuff doesn't prevent episodes entirely, you want to have space to add emergency stuff and not have your body used to a strongass combo. What happens your body compensates it to return to its normal bipolar mode, it seems.

[Sprite22]

Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

I'm not surprized at all, "treating mania" translates to "sedate the shyt out of you until your brain resets".


So APs, especially Haldol makes perfect sense as the most effective treatment.

This has happened to me too. I managed to stay of haldol this time. I don't like that one.

[cool09]

You're right. Lamictal is used for hypomania. I overlooked that.
Haldol, loxitane gave me akithesia which was the worst thing I've ever experienced. And the psych nurses could have cared less. And they pushed me away in the middle of the night when I asked for some xanax to calm my thoughts.
I'm hypomanic and lamictal hasn't done a thing for me in 11 yrs. (I've been on 100 mg to 600 mg doses.) I'd like to see statistics on the efficacy of lamictal.

[Blitter2014]

I've been on lithium and now Lomotrigine which I believe is the same as lactimal. Both have been good for slowing my racing thoughts and helping with anxiety. I only changed to Lomotrigine due to it having less side effects. I am BP2 with more depression than hypomania (which i take Saphris for )which is why it works better for me I believe.