[kaliope]

it has been a long time since i have hallucinated. it is not a symptom i typically get. last night i was distracted by something when i went to get in my car and when i looked back my car was rolling backward out of the parking spot. totally freaked me out. after i shook my head, my car was right where it was supposed to be. today i was reading a text on my phone and as i read each line it illuminated standing out from the rest. also when leaving work i was waiting to turn onto the street. several times the car lurched forward to jump into traffic scaring me to death, but i know i wasnt moving because i had my foot on the break and clutch.

so are these hallucinations? i am mostly out of a two month long mania. why would they be happening now? i am on geodon which i started about three weeks ago, but i have taken it for years. i stopped about five months ago because it gave me TD. the only time i hallucinated since 2007 was when i had a manic reaction to zoloft a couple years ago.

[Wren_]

((((Kali))))
are you especially stressed at the moment? or has anything else changed recently ... with the car situations are you experiencing any dizzyness? (just wondered if that moving feeling was something else or not)

[RisuNeko]

Sound like hallucinations to me. I get hallucinations that aren't during episodes sometimes. Usually only at night though when I'm tired.

kaliope
I've had the 'things moving that really aren't' thing before too. I wasn't quite sure if it was considered a hallucination either. Did their movement make you feel like you were in motion too, because how it felt relative to you? So real! One was at a gas station, and that panic of "rolling" back past the pumps. But nothing was actually moving.
It's not like when you move your head or eyes fast that moment right before you focus. It's pretty distinct. It's motion. Seeing and feeling motion. (in my experience, anyway)

How are your sleep patterns? (I seem to remember them clustering around bad sleep spells. Not always, but most often.)


(psst, RisuNeko… check out hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations -- they're pretty common, and not real hallucinations (as I was much relieved to find when I had a bunch of VERY vivid ones years ago! Like, *get out of bed and start walking within them and while walking, reach out to touch them* vivid! ).

[RisuNeko]

Right! Hypnogogic hallucinations are real hallucinations though, they're just not the kind we're talking about. I do know about them and I've had some.

Usually when I get hallucinations at night though I'm super wide awake. Nowhere near sleeping. Like watching tv or playing video games or something. I think I'm just more susceptible to the relative quiet compared to the daytime and brain wants to fill it in with voices or music.

I did have a scary hypnogogic hallucination a while back though where I saw my roommate come into my room and leave a whiteboard on my door with a note saying that if I didn't clean my room he was going to kick me out and then find another roommate and then he lectured me for a long time. Then I snapped out of it and went to check my door and there was nothing there and I was so baffled and freaked out.

Freaked out -- I'd imagine!

And yes, you are right, they are indeed hallucinations, and not a kind to worry about at all. Not "proper" hallucinations or whatever. Just to elaborate a bit in case anyone's wondering why we seem to be saying opposite things and agreeing. ;-) A lot of "normals" get them too. But they're afraid to talk about them because they're afraid it's some kind of MI symptom. But it isn't.

(I should've been more clear -- almost did put quotes around "real", for that purpose -- ooops, sorry!)

(I've had both, hypnagogic ones and hypnopompic, but tend toward hypnopompic ones, which all the extremely vivid ones I've had have been, curiously enough. And not dream extensions, like it seems they would be.)

[RisuNeko]

Hypnopompic is waking up right? I get sleep paralysis sometimes and I see demons trying to come at me or crush me and all I can do is move my eyes around and try to scream but all that comes out is a pitiful strained breath sound and I can't move a muscle. That can happen to "normals" too apparently.

Yup, leading out of sleep.

Hey kaliope, the illumination one is different -- has that illumination happened in any other situation that the phone?

[Crazy Hitch]

Hi kali

I can't really say as I am not a professional.

When I hallucinate it can be anything random to be honest auditory / visual - it's usually people and voices.

It only happens when I am in an extremely "beyond manic" lol state.

If it were me personally, yeah what you've described doesn't entirely fit my hallucination pattern when I have them .....

However, please rember that they are TOTALLY different.

I get olfactory hallucinations. Ughhh. Those are a bugger. Try sitting in a restaurant honestly believing someone has just driven past on a motor cycle and done burnouts and all you can smell is burnt rubber and want to gag in your food.

[butterflyanne]

Originally Posted by kaliope

it has been a long time since i have hallucinated. it is not a symptom i typically get. last night i was distracted by something when i went to get in my car and when i looked back my car was rolling backward out of the parking spot. totally freaked me out. after i shook my head, my car was right where it was supposed to be. today i was reading a text on my phone and as i read each line it illuminated standing out from the rest. also when leaving work i was waiting to turn onto the street. several times the car lurched forward to jump into traffic scaring me to death, but i know i wasnt moving because i had my foot on the break and clutch.

so are these hallucinations? i am mostly out of a two month long mania. why would they be happening now? i am on geodon which i started about three weeks ago, but i have taken it for years. i stopped about five months ago because it gave me TD. the only time i hallucinated since 2007 was when i had a manic reaction to zoloft a couple years ago.

Sounds like little episodes from stress but I'm just speaking from my expiences. My first real bad one was at 17 when a police station pressing charges against some men then went to parking lot and the police car in front of me melted into the ground. Scared the **** out of me. Zoloft did the same to me as you. So does wellbutrin. I hope if your under a lot of stress you find an out to calm the manias. Good luck hon.

[kaliope]

thanks everybody. i am sleeping fine. i did have my first pdoc when i was hospitalized tell me he thought my hallucinations were hypnogogia. i havent thought of that for a while. i did realize last night that i have taken quite a few doses of trazodone this week and i am wondering if that is what caused these episodes like the zoloft did. i contacted the oncall dr and he somewhat agreed at first but then when he heard i was on wellbutrin he blamed it on that and told me to stop taking it. i cant seem to be on board with that as i have been taking it for eight months so why would i just now be hallucinating? he also questions the interaction betweent he two causing it. he told me to call my pdoc monday to discuss further. so i am jsut going to cut out the trazodone for now.

[mtnannie]

Kali - what you describe do sound like hallucinations. I wanted to pass on info about a new drug I started taking. Several meds have not helped with my hallucinations, including Seroquel. Recently I started taking Latuda and it has been wonderful. 1st NO WEIGHT GAIN! , also no side effects and once I was up to the therapeutic dose my hallucinations are gone. It isn't for everyone I'm sure but my experience has been really good.

As this is happening while driving, I think it should be mentioned to your doctor. Especially since you had a med change recently.

What you are describing sounds very unsettling and I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. I hope you get some answers as to why this is happening, and some help
to make it go away.

[RisuNeko]

Trazodone caused hallucinations in me big time. Mostly auditory though. I think there may have been a couple of visual ones too.

[junkDNA]

trazodone increases serotonin levels which can cause hallucinations. i started taking a lot of trazodone bc of nightmares but then it triggered my psychosis. so it might be the trazodone. too much serotonin can cause psychosis believe it or not