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Old Nov 23, 2015, 10:32 PM
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Hi everyone,

I have been realizing lately how much of an all or nothing person I am. I've read a few articles about it and this kind of thinking is linked to perfectionism which I struggle with as well. And I'm wondering is there anyone else out there who struggles with this type of thinking?

Do you think this way of thinking comes from personality traits or is it a symptom of being bipolar?

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Old Nov 23, 2015, 10:46 PM
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Hi there. I'm not bipolar but I'm obsessive. I tend to polarize a lot, so that's something I have to pay attention to.
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Old Nov 23, 2015, 11:56 PM
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I am all or nothing person, but I think that it is a personality trait.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 12:07 AM
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I used to be an all or nothing person. Now I'm just all over the place most of the time.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 12:42 AM
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When I am depressed I am an all or nothing type of person. I went through DBT PHP twice to learn how to not be that kind of person.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 02:06 AM
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I'm more of a "NOW or NEVER" person...
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 02:51 AM
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I am more of a NOTHING person.

Don't try anything.
Don't try living.
Don't try dying.
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Don't think I'm worth anything.

I am a loser who does nothing 24/7.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 03:14 AM
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I would think black and white thinking is more prominent in Borderline. It seems to be more of a personality trait.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 05:24 AM
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I'm a black and white, all or nothing, go big or go home kinda gal.


But its definitely my BPD and not my BP. My personality needs some fine tuning, which I'm addressing in therapy.


I will say this though, during certain BP episodes my BPD traits are definitely amplified.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 07:42 AM
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Not bipolar but black and white thinker which I have tried to counter with CBT and DBT and removing toxic people from my life. Over the years when I have had a good daily meditation practice it has really helped decrease black and white thinking. The problem is that often I believe this is reality and to think otherwise is to be naive.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 06:41 PM
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I have all or nothing thinking, but I also have BPD so I think it's more about that.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 06:45 PM
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I am an all or nothing person but that comes from my BPD. I do agree that it's more prominent when I'm depressed. I'm learning to compromise and be more open to other ways of thinking through DBT/CBT.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 09:40 PM
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I have a friend who calls me "nothing in moderation". Is that the same thing?
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 11:16 PM
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Yep, all-or-nothing is how I've lived all my life. I've never been accused of doing anything half-assed. It's not so extreme now that I've been medicated for a few years, but I'll probably never learn the word "moderation".
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Old Nov 28, 2015, 01:39 AM
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Thanks for your responses everyone!
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Old Nov 28, 2015, 05:58 AM
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i do do this.

when it becomes out of hand is when i'm buying sttuff (cds, dvds, ffurniture etc)
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Old Nov 28, 2015, 12:27 PM
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I'm that way. But I don't know if it's due to my bipolar or not. I'm getting to where I'm leaning more towards "nothing" lately though because I'm losing the strength, energy, and desire to give anything my "all" anymore.
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Old Nov 28, 2015, 02:36 PM
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Yes, I've had this conversation with my therapist a couple of times. For me its hard to see the small progress, I want to be well and nothing else is good enough in my mind, its horrible and hard to stop doing

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Old Nov 28, 2015, 04:14 PM
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Old Nov 28, 2015, 06:37 PM
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Black or white thinking is a symptom of BPD, a personality disorder.

I'm dxd with both bp and bpd but I struggle to realize if I have black and white thinking or not but I fight a bpd dx with force.
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Old Nov 28, 2015, 06:54 PM
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Yes, especially as an adult. I really am that way with people. If you are going to be difficult or cause problems, then I'm just plain done. I also have very black and white thinking. It's not just me though, my family of origin is that way also. I don't know if it's just me psychologically or learned behavior.
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Old Nov 30, 2015, 03:16 PM
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I'm all or nothing. I like things to be grand. If I'm completing a task I want it done to the t. These things are part of my personality and upbringing. My BP affects me because I do not feel up to taking on task that I normally use to do. People can not depend on me to be that go to person all the time. I have cognitive disfunction and that affects me completing certain task I use to do. Plus I'm tired a lot. I'm BP 1 and the one thing I miss abt mania is the energy.

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