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Old Mar 18, 2016, 06:16 PM
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takeshi - Yes. I plan on bringing notes with me. I get so anxious during evaluations, and I'm going to be even more anxious during these.

They are court ordered psychiatrists. I hope they'll be nice and at least listen to me. I don't know if they'll have my medical records or not. I hope not.
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Wow I am sorry. I'm speechless thy can do this
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Old Mar 18, 2016, 07:00 PM
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Carbamazepine (Tegretol) is the med she (most probably) mentioned. Like valproate (Depakote or Epilim), it is an anticonvulsant. First used for BP about the same time as valproate. Quite a lot of common side-effects.
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Old Mar 18, 2016, 07:03 PM
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Some docs get a hard on for one particular drug and forget that in psychiatric meds there is no one magic pill. Everybody is different. Maybe just mention to the other two Pdocs that if they could come up with a better alternative you would consider it.

You do know about disability rights? It's a protection and legal advocacy group, there's one in every state. Google; national disability rights network and from there it will lead to the advocacy in your state. They might be able to help stop them from forcing you to take a med you don't want to take. Under disabilty rights is another group called PAIMI. It's protection and advocacy for individuals with mental illness. That's the branch you want to talk with. There are no fees if the take your case, it's a federal program.

I looked it up their toll free number is 800-928-8778. You can tell them that you were on a 90 day mental health hold then your pdoc reported you non complaint even though you have been taking meds prescribed but you don't want to take the drug she is pushing on you so now there's a danger of forced meds.
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Thanks, nammu. That's very helpful.
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Old Mar 19, 2016, 09:22 AM
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Any news?
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Old Mar 19, 2016, 09:50 AM
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No. Not yet.

I so want to fire my pdoc right now. I don't know if I'll be able to stand sitting in her office and dealing with her smug face and condescending voice. Do you guys think this would be a bad idea right now? I'm also frickin stubborn and don't want to let her think she's won with this med thing. I want to tell her no again, like call and leave her with the message: Got the letter. NO. She even called before I'd even gotten the letter, asking if I'd changed my mind. She's just awful.
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I found this PDF for all states, including Wisconsin. http://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.o...-treatment.pdf

OP, I hope you can switch pdocs. I don't blame you at all for not wanting to take an ap. I reacted very poorly to them, and they can have life long complications.
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Old Mar 19, 2016, 10:06 AM
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No. Not yet.

I so want to fire my pdoc right now. I don't know if I'll be able to stand sitting in her office and dealing with her smug face and condescending voice. Do you guys think this would be a bad idea right now? I'm also frickin stubborn and don't want to let her think she's won with this med thing. I want to tell her no again, like call and leave her with the message: Got the letter. NO. She even called before I'd even gotten the letter, asking if I'd changed my mind. She's just awful.
Maybe you can at least start searching for another one?

Doctors generally can be quite condescending, I find (of course not all), clinging to much to their feelings of authority and rational superiority. Psychiatrists are the worst, because they are really considered second-rate doctors by many of their peers.

Just something that now popped into my mind: maybe you can start taking a low dose (which of course you would) and feign severe, untraceable side-effects. Migraines maybe.
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